Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:Bonnie.. you need show no shame. You picked 3 wins less then me. Thats RIGHT ENOUGH! No excuses needed. The important thing here is you learned something. Too bad turning on the TV before you post wasnt one of them

So you still haven't learned that you can't trust your eyes?! The eyeball test is bad enough, but your eyes seem to be especially bad. No offense, but maybe if someone drops a pile of bricks on your head it will make you smarter!
Seriously, I sometimes watch the game but I have no desire to be as off-base as you and your blind eyeball test. I'll pass on the suggestion to use the worst available method and get the whole conference wrong like you. Why would I take advice from the poster with one of the worst track records here?

1) Melo isnt the reason the Knicks stink, its our guards
2) Melo is a high impact player

what am I missing Bonn? since you bookmarked my prediction surely you have other follish statements I have said also marked? Im curios.. do tell which of my eyeball observations have been totally off.

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:Bonnie.. you need show no shame. You picked 3 wins less then me. Thats RIGHT ENOUGH! No excuses needed. The important thing here is you learned something. Too bad turning on the TV before you post wasnt one of them

So you still haven't learned that you can't trust your eyes?! The eyeball test is bad enough, but your eyes seem to be especially bad. No offense, but maybe if someone drops a pile of bricks on your head it will make you smarter!
Seriously, I sometimes watch the game but I have no desire to be as off-base as you and your blind eyeball test. I'll pass on the suggestion to use the worst available method and get the whole conference wrong like you. Why would I take advice from the poster with one of the worst track records here?

since Im taking a break Ill engage you... please tell me which of my eye ball tests is especially bad?

1) Melo isnt the reason the Knicks stink, its our guards
2) Melo is a high impact player

what am I missing Bonn? since you bookmarked my prediction surely you have other follish statements I have said also marked? Im curios.. do tell which of my eyeball observations have been totally off.

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gunsnewing wrote:Marbury and Isiah were the face of the Knicks and you had people who defended and people who bashed them. How is Melo any different? We suck just as bad

I guess it's just easier to bash Dolan for everything since we all agree he sucks

We're slightly less bad but it's like asking what form of cancer you want. We're somewhere around .510 in the Melo era - We gave up all our young players, picks, and cap space just to have an average (and trending downward) team.

Exactly. I actually like Melo but he just isn't Lebron or Durant which we desperately need because our owner is against developing good young talent through drafts

and Bonn.. thats on Melo? Melo gets blamed for every bad trade and roster move that happens after he gets here? Thats what I dont get.

Knicks are a losing team for 10 years.
Knicks get Melo.
Knicks become winning team, go to playoffs 3 straight years.
MSG front office makes its usual stupid moves. Team gets worse. Thats on Melo?

Melo is a cancer? Wow.

TFK's favorite player points a gun at his ladies head but Melo is problem and the cancer.
JR shoots 30% for a month and fails 3 piss tests, but Melo is problem and the cancer.
Everyone hear was watched Tyson regress, Iman tank, Amare break, KMart gimp but Melo is problem and the cancer.

This totally inept coach runs this guy into the ground and he continues to give us a chance to win games we have no right being in but Melo is problem and the cancer.

Might as well just look at playa's conspiracy videos.. they seem to have more reality than what people around here talk about.

It's not. If he signs for $17-23mil for the 5yr duration of his contract and we get a coach in here that won't cater to Melo, CAA and Dolan he could be a key part of a championship run. That is reality I think not the other way around. Unless you are content with 1st and 2nd rd exits and missing th playoffs all together because after paying Melo $30mil we can field a deep talented roster.

Dolan is fine with that, are u?

Guns... he's been here for 4 years at $17-23 mill. He's been an all star every year. He was 3rd in the MVP voting last year when the team was good enough to make his production in the box score stick.

You could have high draft picks for a decade and good talent people and not be able to draft a player of Melo's caliber. We have seen it. Ask the Bulls and Krause.

I have no fear of rebuilding. Was Gallo, Will Chandler and Felton getting us deep into the playoffs? Let me remind you they were zero impact players until you stuck a STAR player next to them in Amare. David Lee put up 20/12/55% ( the epitome of a Bonn TS% spank fest) and that team stunk.

So yea... Ill take the first and second round exits. You know why? because at least then you can tell how good your players are. Otherwise your stuck wondering if the Gallo, Wilson Chandler and David Lee's on your team are even worth resigning.

LOL - if you can't an argument, as might as well attribute inaccurate beliefs to someone else and point out that your beliefs are smarter than those.
Seriously, what have you learned from this season? How did you get not only the Knicks but the entire conference so wrong?

are you talking about you?

Are you adding anything here... sorry, I was talking to guns

So you refer to Guns as "Bonn" now?
And, no, I'm referring to the Fishy guy who got the whole conference wrong. Have you learned anything from being so wrong?

Im sorry.. what did I get wrong Bonn? Why dont you post the thread... I probably thought the Knicks would play better. Is that you are clinging to? Why dont you just say something

I already did post it. You got the Knicks and the entire conference completely wrong (thinking there would be 5 50 win teams). Again, here's your win prediction

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50 wins. Artest and Melo at the forwards is the way. Bargs is backup 5. I think we are the 5th best team but one thing with Melo's Knicks is they dont lose to inferior teams. We do a good job padding the wins against weaker or young teams.

If you weren't throwing stones at everyone you disagree with, I'd just let it go.

Am I missing something. He is wrong in his 50 win prediction or that he predicted the knicks would win 50 if Metta started and Bargs came of the bench?

I guess its like people who said we would win 50+ because Camby and Brewer would play but the knicks win 50 without any real contribution from the two for the majority of the year.

What? Who said Camby and Brewer would lead us to 50 wins? You're right that person was wrong but he seems to be imaginal.

Bonn,

You predicted 47 Wins for this season. So I guess that whopping three win differential in season predictions for this year between you and Fish makes you a genius and worthy of being a continuously condescending ***hole on this board. However, I guess when someone ties such significant value in life to meaningless and anonymous internet team record and standings predictions ...being an ***hole is par for the course.

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47 wins

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Classic... thats highlarious. 47 wins... good to know. 3 wins less then my call, but the dude has a thread bookmarked to call out people 4 months later just in case. Funny stuff.

Oh Bonnie..

TS%... Melo's is better than Tim Duncan, Lamarcus Aldridge, Pau Gasol, Kyrie Irving... Im done looking. Melo's PER is good for 7th in the NBA.. but we all know he sucks and only scores because he jacks tons of shots. *ANYONE* can do that zzzzzzzzz

TS% includes the 3-point shot. this stuff may be over your head.

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fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:Bonnie.. you need show no shame. You picked 3 wins less then me. Thats RIGHT ENOUGH! No excuses needed. The important thing here is you learned something. Too bad turning on the TV before you post wasnt one of them

So you still haven't learned that you can't trust your eyes?! The eyeball test is bad enough, but your eyes seem to be especially bad. No offense, but maybe if someone drops a pile of bricks on your head it will make you smarter!
Seriously, I sometimes watch the game but I have no desire to be as off-base as you and your blind eyeball test. I'll pass on the suggestion to use the worst available method and get the whole conference wrong like you. Why would I take advice from the poster with one of the worst track records here?

since Im taking a break Ill engage you... please tell me which of my eye ball tests is especially bad?

1) Melo isnt the reason the Knicks stink, its our guards
2) Melo is a high impact player

what am I missing Bonn? since you bookmarked my prediction surely you have other follish statements I have said also marked? Im curios.. do tell which of my eyeball observations have been totally off.

It's whatever brilliant eye test you used that led you to predict a 50 win season and 5 teams in the conference with 50 wins.

see... he's where your totally wrong. I never ever said my win prediction was based on my eye test. Why? because Ive WATCHED enough sports, and PLAYED enough sports (and GAMBLED enough on sports) to KNOW that predicting win totals and even wins period is more luck than anything else. So I would never have said that, so in addition to being blind your reading comp sucks as well.

Here's the problem. A lot of people on this board watch a lot of basketball. You dont. But you will look at a players stats and comment as if thats good enough. It isnt. You do the same with box scores. Like that game the other day where Melo starts 0-7 but but was great the rest of the game. See you dont see those things in the box score.. only with eyeballs.

We all have access to ESPN, and 82games and all the clever sites you have access to as well. Why dont for once.. just once tell us something you have seen? Its easy to hide behind stats. Cant argue those... only their value.

Funny... every sport, no matter how many metrics they use or what stats they rely on, EVERY SPORT uses the human eye to evaluate talent. Even the money ball metrics king still makes his final judgements on what he sees and what his people see. But yea Bonn... your better then everyone else who actually watches. I would say about 3 wins better.

You want me to use your blind failed eyeball test? No thanks.
You're digging a laughably bigger whole. You always praise the eyeball test but now you want us to believe you didn't even use it when making your prediction?! Seriously? If the predictions are just lucky, then it must be a stunning coincidence that the statistical projections are off on average by only 2 to 3 wins. All the statistical models are lucky, Fishy? You're a stunningly bad learner.

Any no Bonnie... dont want you "to use your blind failed eyeball test" because no such thing exists. Its simply called making an observation. Something your clearly either incapable of or simply not qualified?

Most folks when talking sports like to talk about what they see. Thats why people pay to go (not sure you know this) but they go to see. Then they might actually TALK about what they SEE.

and here I thought I was dealing with grown men....these are things my 9y/o Nephew would do.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Members are actually "bookmarking" threads here just to throw in people face later? wow

and here I thought I was dealing with grown men....these are things my 9y/o Nephew would do.

Not sure who bookmarked. I simply went back to the first page I could find from before the season started and I knew it wouldn't take long (maybe 2 min) to find a post where Fish was way off the mark.

you keep slamming him for having thought there would be 5 good teams in the East. Who didn't think that would be the case? IF you thought the knicks would have won 47 games, did you think the Bulls with Rose and the Nets would be so much worse than that? You're trying to use his predictions against him, but yours were probably in the same ball park. Show me the pre-season thread where you thought the Bulls were sure to lose Rose again and where you thought the Nets would implode. WE already know what you thought of the knicks - 47 wins - making you just as wrong as we all were on that one.

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Bonn1997 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Members are actually "bookmarking" threads here just to throw in people face later? wow

and here I thought I was dealing with grown men....these are things my 9y/o Nephew would do.

Not sure who bookmarked. I simply went back to the first page I could find from before the season started and I knew it wouldn't take long (maybe 2 min) to find a post where Fish was way off the mark.

you keep slamming him for having thought there would be 5 good teams in the East. Who didn't think that would be the case? IF you thought the knicks would have won 47 games, did you think the Bulls with Rose and the Nets would be so much worse than that? You're trying to use his predictions against him, but yours were probably in the same ball park. Show me the pre-season thread where you thought the Bulls were sure to lose Rose again and where you thought the Nets would implode. WE already know what you thought of the knicks - 47 wins - making you just as wrong as we all were on that one.

I said prior to the season that I thought it was possible last year we could be a 1year wonder because of all the injuries on the East
However, I don't think ANYONE thought we would be as bad as we are now

But few never thought we were actually title contenders, NEVER with Woodson as the head coach at the very least...

Marcala12 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Members are actually "bookmarking" threads here just to throw in people face later? wow

and here I thought I was dealing with grown men....these are things my 9y/o Nephew would do.

Not sure who bookmarked. I simply went back to the first page I could find from before the season started and I knew it wouldn't take long (maybe 2 min) to find a post where Fish was way off the mark.

you keep slamming him for having thought there would be 5 good teams in the East.

GustavBahler wrote:I said 49 wins this season. Was more concerned with what kind of a job Woodson would do in the playoffs. Was more confident back then that we would get there. Now not so confident.

Yeah, I was at 47. It was only the people using the advanced metrics who saw this as a .400 team.

gunsnewing wrote:Yea but the metrics don't take injuries and riser changes into account