Swishfm3 wrote:You're like a Drake song

This is priceless! How did we miss this comment. Well done man, well done.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It's not even about being right. I didn't create this thread to run it in. How does rubbing it in help matters? I'm still feeling sick knowing that we finally had a young talented guard fall in our lap. The whole time it's been about how Melo needs help. It was the most fun I had watching this team since the Ewing Knicks by far. And we kicked him out the door because Dolan was drunk. We didn't even offer him a ****in contract!! We persued 40yr old Nash!!

Dolan and this team deserves the current state they find themselves in. I feel for the fans who are trying to remain positive and hopeful

Only James Dolan could have Jeremy Lin fall into his lap, get a ruling that allows us to retain his bird rights (thus sacrificing nothing in terms of building a team)...

and then screw it up.

I forgot that part, thanks for the reminder.

Reminds me of this classic scene from Animal House:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It's not even about being right. I didn't create this thread to run it in. How does rubbing it in help matters? I'm still feeling sick knowing that we finally had a young talented guard fall in our lap. The whole time it's been about how Melo needs help. It was the most fun I had watching this team since the Ewing Knicks by far. And we kicked him out the door because Dolan was drunk. We didn't even offer him a ****in contract!! We persued 40yr old Nash!!

Dolan and this team deserves the current state they find themselves in. I feel for the fans who are trying to remain positive and hopeful

Only James Dolan could have Jeremy Lin fall into his lap, get a ruling that allows us to retain his bird rights (thus sacrificing nothing in terms of building a team)...

and then screw it up.

I agree, but the Rockets offer would not have been matched anyways with that poison pill at the end of the deal. Remember, Lin gets $15 million the last year of the 3 year deal. But the fact that they didn't even put out the offer? Why not just make him the same offer as JR with no cap hit in terms of ability to sign new players. We would have been in the same position luxury tax wise. Still that deal makes him $8.3 a year player, and that would have made him too expensive.

That poison pull crap goes out the windows when you are willing to pay Kidd, Novak and Camby what we did. Not only that we end up trading for Bargs and his contract. Melo and JR let it be known they did not want Lin back. This is the reason why the Knicks NEVER made an offer. The same thing happened this offseason with Cope. If the Knicks want you they will be at your door at midnight. JR got a knock on the door the minute that the offseason started.

BRIGGS wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It's not even about being right. I didn't create this thread to run it in. How does rubbing it in help matters? I'm still feeling sick knowing that we finally had a young talented guard fall in our lap. The whole time it's been about how Melo needs help. It was the most fun I had watching this team since the Ewing Knicks by far. And we kicked him out the door because Dolan was drunk. We didn't even offer him a ****in contract!! We persued 40yr old Nash!!

Dolan and this team deserves the current state they find themselves in. I feel for the fans who are trying to remain positive and hopeful

Only James Dolan could have Jeremy Lin fall into his lap, get a ruling that allows us to retain his bird rights (thus sacrificing nothing in terms of building a team)...

and then screw it up.

I agree, but the Rockets offer would not have been matched anyways with that poison pill at the end of the deal. Remember, Lin gets $15 million the last year of the 3 year deal. But the fact that they didn't even put out the offer? Why not just make him the same offer as JR with no cap hit in terms of ability to sign new players. We would have been in the same position luxury tax wise. Still that deal makes him $8.3 a year player, and that would have made him too expensive.

John--right now Jeremy Lin is playing at his $ level of compensation. He would be the second or third best player on this team right now. Perhaps the best % player--hes shooting 55% through 7 games
and hes scored a high of 31 points. Only 1 Knick has scored 30 this year one time by Melo.

I'm not buying he'll be able to maintain that, and he's playing 6th man on the team which makes him the second most expensive 6th man in the league behind Manu, though I definitely hear what you're saying.

jrodmc wrote:Great, six games in and Lin is now a HOF PG that would have made everyone forget Clyde.

What a boatload of effing trash. Where was all this last season?

Who's saying that? He's just better than Felton and he's probably going to get better.

18 games. EIGHT-TEEN games, and then he sat out the playoffs with his 80% of 95% of the alterior triangle of the quadratic equation readiness to play level.

I was as LinSane as anyone, since I love the baby Jesus as much as our last phenom does, but seriously?

He's the greatest thing since Ewing? Better than Spree for seasons?

fishmike wrote:jrod I dont participate in such silliness.
True or false:
Lin would be the best guard on our roster right now.
Lin would have resigned but Dolan and MSG totaly phucked it up

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:jrod I dont participate in such silliness.
True or false:
Lin would be the best guard on our roster right now.

true

Lin would have resigned but Dolan and MSG totaly phucked it up

false - I think he goes to the highest bidder

JohnStarksFan wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It's not even about being right. I didn't create this thread to run it in. How does rubbing it in help matters? I'm still feeling sick knowing that we finally had a young talented guard fall in our lap. The whole time it's been about how Melo needs help. It was the most fun I had watching this team since the Ewing Knicks by far. And we kicked him out the door because Dolan was drunk. We didn't even offer him a ****in contract!! We persued 40yr old Nash!!

Dolan and this team deserves the current state they find themselves in. I feel for the fans who are trying to remain positive and hopeful

Only James Dolan could have Jeremy Lin fall into his lap, get a ruling that allows us to retain his bird rights (thus sacrificing nothing in terms of building a team)...

and then screw it up.

I agree, but the Rockets offer would not have been matched anyways with that poison pill at the end of the deal. Remember, Lin gets $15 million the last year of the 3 year deal. But the fact that they didn't even put out the offer? Why not just make him the same offer as JR with no cap hit in terms of ability to sign new players. We would have been in the same position luxury tax wise. Still that deal makes him $8.3 a year player, and that would have made him too expensive.

It's up for debate whether Lin is an $8.3M per year player.
For every other team in the league that offer was too expensive to match.
Thing is for the Knicks....he was worth it simply due to the Bird Rights thing. We obviously don't give a damn about the luxury tax because we spent $ on Marcus Camby, Novak, Felton. We took on money in Bargnani.

If it was any other team I would say that what happened was a basketball and business decision.

But the whole Chris Smith situation is proof of the fact that things are done diff. when Dolan is running the team

Clean wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It's not even about being right. I didn't create this thread to run it in. How does rubbing it in help matters? I'm still feeling sick knowing that we finally had a young talented guard fall in our lap. The whole time it's been about how Melo needs help. It was the most fun I had watching this team since the Ewing Knicks by far. And we kicked him out the door because Dolan was drunk. We didn't even offer him a ****in contract!! We persued 40yr old Nash!!

Dolan and this team deserves the current state they find themselves in. I feel for the fans who are trying to remain positive and hopeful

Only James Dolan could have Jeremy Lin fall into his lap, get a ruling that allows us to retain his bird rights (thus sacrificing nothing in terms of building a team)...

and then screw it up.

I agree, but the Rockets offer would not have been matched anyways with that poison pill at the end of the deal. Remember, Lin gets $15 million the last year of the 3 year deal. But the fact that they didn't even put out the offer? Why not just make him the same offer as JR with no cap hit in terms of ability to sign new players. We would have been in the same position luxury tax wise. Still that deal makes him $8.3 a year player, and that would have made him too expensive.

That poison pull crap goes out the windows when you are willing to pay Kidd, Novak and Camby what we did. Not only that we end up trading for Bargs and his contract. Melo and JR let it be known they did not want Lin back. This is the reason why the Knicks NEVER made an offer. The same thing happened this offseason with Cope. If the Knicks want you they will be at your door at midnight. JR got a knock on the door the minute that the offseason started.

Well said. Many of us last year, including me, said that bringing Lin back was personal. The greatest thing to happen to the City in I can't remember how long was shot down due to financial reasons (LOL) and then we go and sign the Geriatric bunch.

Don't listen so much to the excuses management says, just look at their actions.