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holfresh
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10/31/2013  9:29 PM
Negate a couple of bad calls and this game is even...And we are playing horrible...
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Clean
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10/31/2013  9:30 PM
BRIGGS wrote:changing the line up like this wont work

use bargs off the bench and start a regular 2 G with melo at 4.

It could work if Bargs was not trash. We can not have Melo starting at the 4 vs bruiser teams. This is why he broke down during the playoffs. David West put a beating on him that final time we played IND during the regular season.
holfresh
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10/31/2013  9:30 PM
I have never seen consistently ball calls against a team they way the Knicks get officiated...
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10/31/2013  9:31 PM
Just down 5, I'll take it. I wish more guys would move without the ball when they're in a halfcourt set. I know some of it has to do with setting up the three. I see the Bulls and how much more they cut, move around the court, and how many more backdoor cuts, and other scoring opportunities they get from not just standing around.

Melo isn't forcing the issue and is trying to set up his teammates. If Chandler can knock down that jumper with any kind of consistency that would be a great bonus, they should go to him more and see what happens. Shump needs to get out of the early foul trouble. Felton is really battling out there. As for THJ, Don't believe I've seen a Knicks rookie with a stroke that sweet (when its on) since Hubert Davis. He can also put the ball on the floor, also looks like THJ will be good off the dribble in time. Bargs is playing hard and his offense still hasn't come around but he is finding other ways to contribute.
playa2
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10/31/2013  9:31 PM
PresIke wrote:amazing how kerr and marv can talk ish about the knicks for an entire quarter that ends with us down 5 points...

or telling?

They have an agenda nobody likes Dolan or Isiah, even a child watching this broadcast can see that. This is a league wide thing man.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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10/31/2013  9:32 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Just down 5, I'll take it. I wish more guys would move without the ball when they're in a halfcourt set. I know some of it has to do with setting up the three. I see the Bulls and how much more they cut, move around the court, and how many more backdoor cuts, and other scoring opportunities they get from not just standing around.

Melo isn't forcing the issue and is trying to set up his teammates. If Chandler can knock down that jumper with any kind of consistency that would be a great bonus, they should go to him more and see what happens. Shump needs to get out of the early foul trouble. Felton is really battling out there. As for THJ, Don't believe I've seen a Knicks rookie with a stroke that sweet (when its on) since Hubert Davis. He can also put the ball on the floor, also looks like THJ will be good off the dribble in time. Bargs is playing hard and his offense still hasn't come around but he is finding other ways to contribute.

All those cuts are plays. Our coach is not that imaginative with his plays I guess.
BigDaddyG
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10/31/2013  9:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:changing the line up like this wont work

use bargs off the bench and start a regular 2 G with melo at 4.


Maybe. The bottom line is that the team needs to take way better care of the ball. We're on pace for 26 turnovers and it's going to be hard for us to win like that. Fortunately, we're hitting threes now and that's helped us stay in it.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
misterearl
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10/31/2013  9:32 PM
Use November to work it out the kinks on ball handling and tempo

December, early injuries thin the herd

January, the tempo starts to cohere. Alternating wins ad losses.

February, trade deadline fever hits again, players play tight

March, it starts with an eight game winning streak.

April, its on and poppin.

You heard it here first

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GustavBahler
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10/31/2013  9:35 PM
Clean wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Just down 5, I'll take it. I wish more guys would move without the ball when they're in a halfcourt set. I know some of it has to do with setting up the three. I see the Bulls and how much more they cut, move around the court, and how many more backdoor cuts, and other scoring opportunities they get from not just standing around.

Melo isn't forcing the issue and is trying to set up his teammates. If Chandler can knock down that jumper with any kind of consistency that would be a great bonus, they should go to him more and see what happens. Shump needs to get out of the early foul trouble. Felton is really battling out there. As for THJ, Don't believe I've seen a Knicks rookie with a stroke that sweet (when its on) since Hubert Davis. He can also put the ball on the floor, also looks like THJ will be good off the dribble in time. Bargs is playing hard and his offense still hasn't come around but he is finding other ways to contribute.

All those cuts are plays. Our coach is not that imaginative with his plays I guess.

Not all of it, some of it is from taking advantage of an opportunity, a defensive lapse. I do agree that Woodson needs to get more imaginative on offense.
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10/31/2013  9:38 PM
Bargs had 2 bad calls and Melo had a bad one too. The refs r serving up some home cooking but we need to play better.
Nalod
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10/31/2013  9:38 PM
misterearl wrote:Use November to work it out the kinks on ball handling and tempo

December, early injuries thin the herd

January, the tempo starts to cohere. Alternating wins ad losses.

February, trade deadline fever hits again, players play tight

March, it starts with an eight game winning streak.

April, its on and poppin.

You heard it here first

May, be disappointed
June, the draft and rumors
July, Summerleague saviors

Rinse, lather, repeat.
knicks1248
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10/31/2013  9:39 PM
shoot 34% and turn the ball over 13 times down only 5..
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10/31/2013  9:40 PM 
3rd Qtr 10:51
CHI 46 NYK 40
Clean
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10/31/2013  9:40 PM
Please God help bargs resemble a basketball player.
misterearl
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10/31/2013  9:40 PM
Nalod - why watch?
once a knick always a knick
Clean
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10/31/2013  9:41 PM
Rose walked into that 3. 3 steps with no dribble.
nycisgreat
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10/31/2013  9:44 PM
holfresh wrote:Negate a couple of bad calls and this game is even...And we are playing horrible...

agreed
nycisgreat
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10/31/2013  9:44 PM
Clean wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:changing the line up like this wont work

use bargs off the bench and start a regular 2 G with melo at 4.

It could work if Bargs was not trash. We can not have Melo starting at the 4 vs bruiser teams. This is why he broke down during the playoffs. David West put a beating on him that final time we played IND during the regular season.

Bargs is definitely playing like trash.
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10/31/2013  9:45 PM 
3rd Qtr 7:55
CHI 53 NYK 46
knicks1248
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10/31/2013  9:45 PM
ok Barg
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