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Beck Reporting Knicks trade for Bargnani
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Bonn1997
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6/30/2013  8:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Raptors fans are lighting fire works right now, barg has been brutal shooting the ball and lives on the perimeter, doesn't rebound( a glaring weakness of ours) and is a suspect defender..This traded really could have waited until we figure out whats up with JR and Cope.

JR is going to demand to start is they want him for cheap, and I think he should, i like shump of the bench

He's basically a 7' chucker who sucks at defense

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6/30/2013  8:27 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Raptors fans are lighting fire works right now, barg has been brutal shooting the ball and lives on the perimeter, doesn't rebound( a glaring weakness of ours) and is a suspect defender..This traded really could have waited until we figure out whats up with JR and Cope.

JR is going to demand to start is they want him for cheap, and I think he should, i like shump of the bench

the only reason the raps made this trade was for the pick... an they got it..

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6/30/2013  8:34 PM
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EnySpree wrote:the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his season average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!

I agree. The first rounder still stings though

Next year if this trade doesn't work out, you can trade his expiring contract for our 1st rounder back.

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6/30/2013  8:36 PM
They don't need Barganni to be a franchise guy. Just spread the floor and create mismatches.

Not like we would have been able to move Novak's 3 years and 2 years of Camby taking up a seat on the bench for anything else.

Basically we swapped bad contracts and got a guy who can give us some scoring off the bench now that JR is gone.

Camby and Novak didnt even play in our post season last year.

Barganni can split 20/30 with Amare and he'll allow us to put Melo in the post as 3 man instead of at the 4.

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6/30/2013  8:42 PM
playa2 wrote:They don't need Barganni to be a franchise guy. Just spread the floor and create mismatches.

Not like we would have been able to move Novak's 3 years and 2 years of Camby taking up a seat on the bench for anything else.

Basically we swapped bad contracts and got a guy who can give us some scoring off the bench now that JR is gone.

Camby and Novak didnt even play in our post season last year.

Barganni can split 20/30 with Amare and he'll allow us to put Melo in the post as 3 man instead of at the 4.

This is all assumed that he is healthy. I mean its a fact tha he has been just as injured as amare has the past 2 years
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6/30/2013  8:44 PM
With Barganni we didn't take on a longer contract, we moved two useless equally bad contracts for a guy who can be a decent role player off the bench.

Our core consists of guys going into their early 30s so we need to do what we can to remain competitive.

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6/30/2013  8:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  8:50 PM
playa2 wrote:With Barganni we didn't take on a longer contract, we moved two useless equally bad contracts for a guy who can be a decent role player off the bench.

Our core consists of guys going into their early 30s so we need to do what we can to remain competitive.

Who said we took on a longer contract? the point is that you cant blame people for being concerned. bargnani can be good BUT his injury issues and questionable motor are concerns
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6/30/2013  8:51 PM
WE just got a steal!!!

his value is rock bottom and it will not stay here, he had a fluke of a terrible season,

this is all WIN for us,

he can drop 20 for your, legit 20 any night,

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6/30/2013  8:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  8:53 PM
AWESOME!!!

A new guy that can't rebound, can't play D to save his life and takes bad shots.

We will never get better making trades this way. The nets get KG and PP and we get Barg... What a freaking joke.

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6/30/2013  8:53 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:WE just got a steal!!!

his value is rock bottom and it will not stay here, he had a fluke of a terrible season,

this is all WIN for us,

he can drop 20 for your, legit 20 any night,

Nobody ever questioned his scoring. The big concern is his injury issues and if he can do other things if he isnt scoring on a particular night
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6/30/2013  8:56 PM
Why the F did we give them 2 2nd Rounders? WTF is going on. I didnt mind the Ok City pick 2 much because its going to be like 56 anyway but come on man
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6/30/2013  8:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  9:03 PM
So let me get this straight....


ChrushAlot kept regurgitating that the last year of Camby's deal was non guaranteed and that it would be of value to us....


So we traded for Marcus Camby and it cost us...

Toney Douglas
Jorts
Jerome Jordan
2014 2nd
2015 2nd

We have the audacity to be arrogant enough to trade with Masai for a player the Raptors couldn't get even a WNBA team to trade for and we give up


1rst(2016 which is Denver's)
2 2nd round picks per(Howard Beck)


I mean name me a 40yr player of any sport that has cost a team this dearly. Raptors also get cap relief to a tune of $7.5mil in savings? Man we got bent over again....I'm not sure Walsh would have even done this deal. This trade also shows how bad the offers were for Punani.


Grunny got Dunny!!!!!!

We may not be that good of a team in 2016 therefore.....Denver STAY WINNIN!!!!!

We should have a written rule going forward.....


WE WILL NOT EVER DEAL WITH MOREY OR MASSAI AS LONG AS THEY HAVE FRONT OFFICE POSITIONS IN THE NBA ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

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6/30/2013  8:57 PM
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6/30/2013  8:58 PM
raven wrote:AWESOME!!!

A new guy that can't rebound, can't play D to save his life and takes bad shots.

We will never get better making trades this way. The nets get KG and PP and we get Barg... What a freaking joke.

Ssshh, the you will get a memo from the Trolls.

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6/30/2013  8:58 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Raptors fans are lighting fire works right now, barg has been brutal shooting the ball and lives on the perimeter, doesn't rebound( a glaring weakness of ours) and is a suspect defender..This traded really could have waited until we figure out whats up with JR and Cope.

JR is going to demand to start is they want him for cheap, and I think he should, i like shump of the bench

He's basically a 7' chucker who sucks at defense

LOL - Leave it to Bonn to boil it down.

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6/30/2013  9:00 PM
look you're in a position here where you are going through the heap of maybe salvage things,

so this is bargs, can't play worse next year than he did last year, so it's all upside on him,

if he can recover even 75% of his peak form, he will be great addition that will spread the hardwoods, drop the long bombs, and he will thrive i think in a role where he is not the number 1 guy, because being number 1 guy is above his head and this is the root of his failure with CRAPTORS

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6/30/2013  9:00 PM
Why didnt we just trade fro Thomas Robinson
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6/30/2013  9:03 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Why didnt we just trade fro Thomas Robinson

No cap room.

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6/30/2013  9:04 PM
I can't believe some of you guys. You cry like lovesick schoolboys when Gallinari gets traded and then you cry over some low first-round pick when we get a better version of Gallinari back. The only real issue is the salary. But you can argue that it was already dead money since it was being invested in Novak and Camby.
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6/30/2013  9:05 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:Why didnt we just trade fro Thomas Robinson

No cap room.


We have non guaranteed deals dont we?
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