3G4G wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He'll get credit from the skeptics if or when he achieves something that they care about - high PPG isn't one of them.

Division title?

Congrats Melo.

Boston doesn't hang Division Ttiles...Clippers just won a Division Title.... Blake Griffin said it's not getting hung we have our eyes on bigger goals....

CHIP OR BUST at the time of trade I said 3 PEAT OR BUST

Funny that you said that considering you don't seem to think melo is "complete" enough to win one single championship.......and he's certainly playing better now than he did in Denver the games before the trade.

fishmike wrote:cool for Melo. Wining the scoring title is solid. Its a nice accomplishment, especially when you consider the guy who was supposed to do the other half of the scoring didnt play all year. Good for Melo. Stay hot come playoffs

3G4G wrote:

Dagger wrote:

3G4G wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He'll get credit from the skeptics if or when he achieves something that they care about - high PPG isn't one of them.

Division title?

Congrats Melo.

Boston doesn't hang Division Ttiles...Clippers just won a Division Title.... Blake Griffin said it's not getting hung we have our eyes on bigger goals....

CHIP OR BUST at the time of trade I said 3 PEAT OR BUST

Funny that you said that considering you don't seem to think melo is "complete" enough to win one single championship.......and he's certainly playing better now than he did in Denver the games before the trade.

Uhhhhhhh that's because he was in derail mode in Denver. We have hope that day never comes upon this franchise. For now he's playing well but he did the same last yr, so what. And he's put together scoring sprees in Denver hence before he became a Knick some in NBA circles referred to him as the BEST PURE SCORER....

Yes, but you're missing my point. He's better now than he was in Denver, yet after he left Denver you expected 3 championships out of him? So now that he's improved he's not good enough to even win one of those championships? The logic is not there. Or maybe your dislike for him has bubbled and boiled over time in a sort of somber stew of disgust, vitriol, and resentment? Has Melo jaded you?

3G4G wrote:

Dagger wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Dagger wrote:

3G4G wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He'll get credit from the skeptics if or when he achieves something that they care about - high PPG isn't one of them.

Division title?

Congrats Melo.

Boston doesn't hang Division Ttiles...Clippers just won a Division Title.... Blake Griffin said it's not getting hung we have our eyes on bigger goals....

CHIP OR BUST at the time of trade I said 3 PEAT OR BUST

Funny that you said that considering you don't seem to think melo is "complete" enough to win one single championship.......and he's certainly playing better now than he did in Denver the games before the trade.

Uhhhhhhh that's because he was in derail mode in Denver. We have hope that day never comes upon this franchise. For now he's playing well but he did the same last yr, so what. And he's put together scoring sprees in Denver hence before he became a Knick some in NBA circles referred to him as the BEST PURE SCORER....

Yes, but you're missing my point. He's better now than he was in Denver, yet after he left Denver you expected 3 championships out of him? So now that he's improved he's not good enough to even win one of those championships? The logic is not there. Or maybe your dislike for him has bubbled and boiled over time in a sort of somber stew of disgust, vitriol, and resentment? Has Melo jaded you?

No Melo is the same player he was in Denver and you could say 2006-2009 he was arguably better. The difference between Denver Melo and Knick Melo, you see him play everyday unlike when he was in Denver, because he plays for us.

My Bad on the Bosh blurb, still everything I stated remains. The series should have been pushed further.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:Melo is not the same player. He's posting career highs in player efficiency.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

His numbers are not completely up across the board if you're looking at his play in vacuum offensively then sure. But I'll take the Nugget Melo who shot .492fg and .354fg(3pt) and 7.4reb and 3.4ast and 1.3stls in 2007-2008.....which are all higher numbers except 3pt% compared to this year. The game is so much more than 28.7ppg in case you forgot.

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:Melo is not the same player. He's posting career highs in player efficiency.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

His numbers are not completely up across the board if you're looking at his play in vacuum offensively then sure. But I'll take the Nugget Melo who shot .492fg and .354fg(3pt) and 7.4reb and 3.4ast and 1.3stls in 2007-2008.....which are all higher numbers except 3pt% compared to this year. The game is so much more than 28.7ppg in case you forgot.

3G can you address the Miami series? Both me and Knickscity believe that the Knicks stood no chance with all their injures. What do you believe? You cant seriously pin that on Melo.

All I said is the series should have been pushed further as should the Boston series prior to. 1 win over 8 playoff gms and you're a supposed Top 5 player?

FOREALIOUSLY!

I'd wager if you swap Lebron and Melo, same scenarios either the series goes more than 5gms or we win

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:Melo is not the same player. He's posting career highs in player efficiency.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

His numbers are not completely up across the board if you're looking at his play in vacuum offensively then sure. But I'll take the Nugget Melo who shot .492fg and .354fg(3pt) and 7.4reb and 3.4ast and 1.3stls in 2007-2008.....which are all higher numbers except 3pt% compared to this year. The game is so much more than 28.7ppg in case you forgot.

3G can you address the Miami series? Both me and Knickscity believe that the Knicks stood no chance with all their injures. What do you believe? You cant seriously pin that on Melo.

All I said is the series should have been pushed further as should the Boston series prior to. 1 win over 8 playoff gms and you're a supposed Top 5 player?

FOREALIOSULY!

I'd wager if you swap Lebron and Melo, same scenarios either the series goes more than 5gms or we win

How in the world could the Knicks have pushed that further with the roster we had due to injuries?
And yes, Melo is not Lebron.

woodson had no plan for melo against the heat. very unimaginative. it was hand the ball to melo and hope he creates. very bad.

the main image of futility was lebron 3/4ering melo and preventing an entry pass, precious seconds evaporating. if and when melo gets it he forces up a shot. no ball movement leads to stagnation leads to iso ball. it's a vicious cycle.

this season i see a much more promising knick team. woodson has decided that the best plan of action is to model the knicks after the dirk mavs 2011 team.

it's a good idea and it may just work: low turnovers, ball movement. then there's the knick defense. will the zone work against the heat now that lebron has developed a jumpshot?

first though we have to beat the celtics and the pacers. yeah i just made a prediction.

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:Melo is not the same player. He's posting career highs in player efficiency.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

His numbers are not completely up across the board if you're looking at his play in vacuum offensively then sure. But I'll take the Nugget Melo who shot .492fg and .354fg(3pt) and 7.4reb and 3.4ast and 1.3stls in 2007-2008.....which are all higher numbers except 3pt% compared to this year. The game is so much more than 28.7ppg in case you forgot.

3G can you address the Miami series? Both me and Knickscity believe that the Knicks stood no chance with all their injures. What do you believe? You cant seriously pin that on Melo.

All I said is the series should have been pushed further as should the Boston series prior to. 1 win over 8 playoff gms and you're a supposed Top 5 player?

FOREALIOSULY!

I'd wager if you swap Lebron and Melo, same scenarios either the series goes more than 5gms or we win

How in the world could the Knicks have pushed that further with the roster we had due to injuries?
And yes, Melo is not Lebron.

woodson had no plan for melo against the heat. very unimaginative. it was hand the ball to melo and hope he creates. very bad.

the main image of futility was lebron 3/4ering melo and preventing an entry pass, precious seconds evaporating. if and when melo gets it he forces up a shot. no ball movement leads to stagnation leads to iso ball. it's a vicious cycle.

this season i see a much more promising knick team. woodson has decided that the best plan of action is to model the knicks after the dirk mavs 2011 team.

it's a good idea and it may just work: low turnovers, ball movement. then there's the knick defense. will the zone work against the heat now that lebron has developed a jumpshot?

first though we have to beat the celtics and the pacers. yeah i just made a prediction.

OGkush121 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

OGkush121 wrote:Congrats Melo, you deserve it.
Had your best year yet, and you won the scoring title, were one of the only other possible candidates for MVP whose name isn't LeBron, you (along with the team ofcourse) got us the #2 seed in the East and won the Division.
It's all poised now for a deep playoff run, hopefully/potentialy extending past the ECF.

It's a shame some people just flat out hate Melo because he's not LeBron/Durant, but what're you gonna do, it's just gonna be that much sweeter when they eat their words.

Thats why people hate him?

please, some people are never satisfied with anything Melo does, when he has a bad game or something you won't hear the end of it....and when he has a great game the only thing you'll hear from the same people is how much better LeBron is or how much more efficient Durant is.
Well guess what, there are only 2 (arguably 3) other teams that have as good as or a better player than Melo and a better team, and I don't hear the other 27 fanbases complain about their star player(s) nearly as much as some people b1tch and whine about Melo on here, even though he's the reason the Knicks are relevant again.

Papabear Says

Great Post but you know those haters who call themselves Knicks fans are praying that we loose. What gets me is that like you said if it wasn't for Melo we would not be the 2 seed. They hate the idea that we are winning. They are rooting for Lebron more than Melo when it was LeCon who played us having us almost just give away Zach Randolph and Crawford moving space around thinking he had plans to come here. These haters aren't really knicks fans. They are Melo haters and pray to their God to please please let Melo get hurt or just have the Knicks loose. But remember one thing. If we are so lucky to win is all. They the haters will be forever banned from every Knicks forum around. Now I don't mean they will be banned by Andrew or Martin but they will be remembered as a group of so called Knicks make believe fans who couldn't stand to see the Knicks win a championship and Melo the MVP. They will be marked for life and every post they make will be looked at as a joke hatting the man who gave us the championship. They will be miserable has bins .

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Dagger wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Dagger wrote:

3G4G wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He'll get credit from the skeptics if or when he achieves something that they care about - high PPG isn't one of them.

Division title?

Congrats Melo.

Boston doesn't hang Division Ttiles...Clippers just won a Division Title.... Blake Griffin said it's not getting hung we have our eyes on bigger goals....

CHIP OR BUST at the time of trade I said 3 PEAT OR BUST

Funny that you said that considering you don't seem to think melo is "complete" enough to win one single championship.......and he's certainly playing better now than he did in Denver the games before the trade.

Uhhhhhhh that's because he was in derail mode in Denver. We have hope that day never comes upon this franchise. For now he's playing well but he did the same last yr, so what. And he's put together scoring sprees in Denver hence before he became a Knick some in NBA circles referred to him as the BEST PURE SCORER....

Yes, but you're missing my point. He's better now than he was in Denver, yet after he left Denver you expected 3 championships out of him? So now that he's improved he's not good enough to even win one of those championships? The logic is not there. Or maybe your dislike for him has bubbled and boiled over time in a sort of somber stew of disgust, vitriol, and resentment? Has Melo jaded you?

No Melo is the same player he was in Denver and you could say 2006-2009 he was arguably better. The difference between Denver Melo and Knick Melo, you see him play everyday unlike when he was in Denver, because he plays for us.

My Bad on the Bosh blurb, still everything I stated remains. The series should have been pushed further.

Melo is not the same player. He's posting career highs in player efficiency.

Not even sure why Miami series is still being brought up, I can't imagine the team even winning a game with all the injuries they suffered, while playing a fully healthy Heat team with no core players missing.

His field goal % and true shooting % were actually better in 2007-8, and his assist:turnover ratio (passing efficiency) was slightly better then too.

Yea, but his win shares/48 this year(.184) is the highest in his career!