I think one thing we should all remember is not to get ahead of ourselves. For all the hype, without a waiver wire pickup at point guard midseason, the knicks go into a death spiral and miss the playoffs. We have one playoff victory with this team. The Knicks need to do something this year in the playoffs, by all accounts it looks like they will. But, this team is on the cusp of being past it's prime in year one.

We are a better team than the rockets now, but Asik is very comparable to chandler at this team. Harden is as good a scorer as Melo right now at 23 years old while Melo is 28.

Harden 26pts 5.2ast 4.5rbs 1.8stl 17.2 shots
Melo 28.5pts 1.9ast 6.2rbs 1.0stl 20.7 shots

After this year who know about Kidd and Camby, no Wallace, does Amare stay healthy, does JR resign, is shumpert the player he was. We ahve no draft picks.

Our future rest's on Raymond Felton.

.413% 18th among shooting guards
33.1 minutes 10th among shooting guards.
9th in scoring

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:"Moron Morey" has the lowest paid, youngest team in the league playing at above .500 in the west. What's that? Just luck?

Yea pretty much. Check out their conference record(5-12). Most of March and April will mark their demise.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:"Moron Morey" has the lowest paid, youngest team in the league playing at above .500 in the west. What's that? Just luck?

Yea pretty much. Check out their conference record(5-12). Most of March and April will mark their demise.

Small sample? They're 16-14. Their opponents' winning % is .541 and their scoring margin is +1.43. That combination puts them at 6th best in the league according to Hollinger (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings). (Nuggets 4th and us 9th, BTW.) I don't think they are actually the 6th best team in the league but they're playing very well for such a young team. They're only going to get better.

Could you possibly unearth a stat that has the Nuggs in first place and sweeping their way to a chip? Please?

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:"Moron Morey" has the lowest paid, youngest team in the league playing at above .500 in the west. What's that? Just luck?

Yea pretty much. Check out their conference record(5-12). Most of March and April will mark their demise.

Small sample? They're 16-14. Their opponents' winning % is .541 and their scoring margin is +1.43. That combination puts them at 6th best in the league according to Hollinger (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings). (Nuggets 4th and us 9th, BTW.) I don't think they are actually the 6th best team in the league but they're playing very well for such a young team. They're only going to get better.

Could you possibly unearth a stat that has the Nuggs in first place and sweeping their way to a chip? Please?

I'd rather go with current, validated stats than unearth what you're asking for.

Are you in charge of the universal control spreadsheet?

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'm not saying the Rockets or Nuggets are actually better than but you seem to be downplaying the difference between your opponents having a winning % around .550 (Houston, Denver) and in the .470s (Knicks).

I think you're overplaying it.

Sometimes its strictly about matchups...no science

Hopefully that will put our 21-9 record in some sort of realistic light. We just can't be the second best team in our conference. It's not physically possible! I mean, 1/3 of the season is over already! And we even have the Wiz and the Hobcats! They won't even qualify for the NBDL playoffs!

Give me some .500 team that's 7th best in their conference, but with cap space and potential! And youth! We likes youth!

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

dk7th wrote: i just don't like players who are not aware that they are not as good as the hype. i don't like bryant either for the same reason. there's confidence and then there's conceitedness. he believes in his own hype and he plays like it.

What hype exactly? Before this season, barely anyone outside of NY thought Melo was any good due to the team's struggles at the time. If you add the fact that fans like TKF and yourself never thought he was that good to begin with, then there really wasnt much hype for him to believe in was it? If you're talking about this year's hype then I still dont see the problem since you just said that he is playing very well (though you attribute it solely to his 3 point shooting).

the stern-era nba is nothing if not a hype-machine. part of that machine is being grossly compensated and being surrounded by handlers, yes men, posses, etc. carmelo has been immersed in this nba hype-machine culture his entire life. think about that for a second-- his entire life he has been spoon fed the nba, inundated by the nba, and eventually immersed in the nba.

fans are not immune to the hype-machine. far from it. carmelo anthony has been similarly lauded for an all-star career and making the playoffs every year of his career by a majority of new york fans. that he has been a hugely divisive figure is proof of the extreme feelings... not the exactly what you are conveying here.

You can take out Carmelo and substitute it with several other players in the NBA and that paragraph would still hold true. But you're saying what makes him a "vain douche" is that he believes hes good at basketball?

As for your other point, it doesnt really apply to me. As you can see from my username, I dont like to attribute a teams success to one individual (unless that actually is the case like Lebron's Cavs). Basketball is still a team sport. But that "hype-machine" you're referring to is still a little confusing to me. Until recently, Stern has long since abandoned trying to hype up Melo so is the hype just Knicks fans?

he is a good basketball player-- let's start there. but what i have been saying is that he believes he is better than he actually is, and plays as though he is better than he actually is. this has been a problem his entire career so far as i a concerned-- again my opinion. you can't have a "usage rate"/"ast rate" ratio like carmelo's and not come across as a selfish player. this season alone it's a whopping 3:1. this season his assist average is at a career low. during his most successful season do you know what that ratio was? 1.66:1 in 2008-2009.

you have a wonderful username. as you probably know i treasure teamwork and defense. let me ask you this: do you believe that melo thinks he makes others around him better on either end of the court? or a different question: do you believe that melo makes others around him better on either end of the court?