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holfresh
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12/29/2012  8:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  8:32 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game(all great pgs have), overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

See here is where we will have difficulty seeing eye to eye..Before Felton numerous hand injuries, Clyde was saying Felton should be considered for the all star team without much fanfare around here...He was also saying Felton was having a better year then DWill without fanfare...Now two weeks later Felton is all that bad of a player???..Who is being real here???

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holfresh
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12/29/2012  8:30 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

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12/29/2012  8:31 PM
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game(all great pgs have), overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

See here is where we will have difficulty seeing eye to eye..Before Felton numerous hand injuries, Clyde was saying Felton should be considered for the all star team with much fanfare around here...He was also saying Felton was having a better year then DWill without fanfare...Now two weeks later Felton is all that bad of a player???..Who is being real here???

please explain feltons career and stop looking at small sample sizes

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12/29/2012  8:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  8:33 PM
I criticized Clyde in the game thread for saying Felton should be an allstar. He said it well after Felton costs us the 2 games vs Houston, Dallas, Nets and both Chicago games. In my mind I thought what is Clyde watching when the guy is shooting 9-21, 9-21, 9-30 etc
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12/29/2012  8:33 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

perhaps if you actually had 5 (at guard) you might not be so cloudy.

30 is a bonus

And yes. I obviously see things that you would never understand but I imagine that most people do

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12/29/2012  8:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I criticized Clyde in the game thread for saying Felton should be an allstar. He said it well after Felton costs us the 2 games vs Houston, Dallas, Nets and both Chicago games. In my mind I thought what is Clyde watching when the guy is shooting 9-21, 9-21, 9-30 etc

9-21 were his better games. I would take that from him over 5-19

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12/29/2012  8:35 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I criticized Clyde in the game thread for saying Felton should be an allstar. He said it well after Felton costs us the 2 games vs Houston, Dallas, Nets and both Chicago games. In my mind I thought what is Clyde watching when the guy is shooting 9-21, 9-21, 9-30 etc

9-21 were his better games. I would take that from him over 5-19

true

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12/29/2012  8:40 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game(all great pgs have), overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

See here is where we will have difficulty seeing eye to eye..Before Felton numerous hand injuries, Clyde was saying Felton should be considered for the all star team with much fanfare around here...He was also saying Felton was having a better year then DWill without fanfare...Now two weeks later Felton is all that bad of a player???..Who is being real here???

please explain feltons career and stop looking at small sample sizes

I never comment on what a player or coach does elsewhere because it never translate...Look at MDA and Larry Brown...I talk about what I see night in and out...I would even venture to say I could probably find u threads where I wasn't high on the Felton signing like I was against Amare coming here...They both convinced me they are tough players based on what I saw and now I like both...I don't ever believe what a person tells me about another team unless they are watching every game like we watch the Knicks..Pretty hard to do and get a true assessment of who a player is...So dude is looking like a baller to me...

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12/29/2012  8:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  8:43 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game(all great pgs have), overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

See here is where we will have difficulty seeing eye to eye..Before Felton numerous hand injuries, Clyde was saying Felton should be considered for the all star team with much fanfare around here...He was also saying Felton was having a better year then DWill without fanfare...Now two weeks later Felton is all that bad of a player???..Who is being real here???

please explain feltons career and stop looking at small sample sizes

I never comment on what a player or coach does elsewhere because it never translate...Look at MDA and Larry Brown...I talk about what I see night in and out...I would even venture to say I could probably find u threads where I wasn't high on the Felton signing like I was against Amare coming here...They both convinced me they are tough players based on what I saw and now I like both...I don't ever believe what a person tells me about another team unless they are watching every game like we watch the Knicks..Pretty hard to do and get a true assessment of who a player is...So dude is looking like a baller to me...

Dude looking like a baller? Perhaps you don't know how a baller should look.

The DUDE misses every open man, dribbles with his head down, shoots like a retard and ...

Baller he is

Edit: Good call on Amare too. Very "tough"

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12/29/2012  8:43 PM
oh forgot the dribbling with his head down
holfresh
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12/29/2012  8:43 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

perhaps if you actually had 5 (at guard) you might not be so cloudy.

30 is a bonus

And yes. I obviously see things that you would never understand but I imagine that most people do

haha..not gonna brag bro...My fam is very sports oriented and we all play ball...I have people in my family that has made it to the top in sports...Pro basketball, pro football, pro Soccer (NASL)...I;m here to chat at the Knicks not to wear that stuff on my sleeves...

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12/29/2012  8:43 PM
Holfresh does not care about scoring efficiency and thinks if the team has a good record, it validates the PG. He's not willing to reconsider those ideas. So there's really nothing left to discuss.
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12/29/2012  8:44 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Holfresh does not care about scoring efficiency and thinks if the team has a good record, it validates the PG. He's not willing to reconsider those ideas. So there's really nothing left to discuss.

how about 18-6 with B-Dummy?

Oh ... I forgot. Hotfresh probably thought that BD was a good player too (based on the eye test)

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12/29/2012  8:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  8:46 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

perhaps if you actually had 5 (at guard) you might not be so cloudy.

30 is a bonus

And yes. I obviously see things that you would never understand but I imagine that most people do

haha..not gonna brag bro...My fam is very sports oriented and we all play ball...I have people in my family that has made it to the top in sports...Pro basketball, pro football, pro Soccer (NASL)...I;m here to chat at the Knicks not to wear that stuff on my sleeves...

They must be very proud of you

Every family has a black sheep

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12/29/2012  8:45 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

perhaps if you actually had 5 (at guard) you might not be so cloudy.

30 is a bonus

And yes. I obviously see things that you would never understand but I imagine that most people do

haha..not gonna brag bro...My fam is very sports oriented and we all play ball...I have people in my family that has made it to the top in sports...Pro basketball, pro football, pro Soccer (NASL)...I;m here to chat at the Knicks not to wear that stuff on my sleeves...

Forgot one that played in the Expos minor league..he doesn't count!!!

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12/29/2012  8:46 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Holfresh does not care about scoring efficiency and thinks if the team has a good record, it validates the PG. He's not willing to reconsider those ideas. So there's really nothing left to discuss.

Funny you said that. I just checked out of his never-ending thread. No different then the never-ending threads during the summer

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12/29/2012  8:46 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Holfresh does not care about scoring efficiency and thinks if the team has a good record, it validates the PG. He's not willing to reconsider those ideas. So there's really nothing left to discuss.

how about 18-6 with B-Dummy?

Oh ... I forgot. Hotfresh probably thought that BD was a good player too (based on the eye test)


I'm offended I liked Diddy.
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12/29/2012  8:47 PM
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Holfresh does not care about scoring efficiency and thinks if the team has a good record, it validates the PG. He's not willing to reconsider those ideas. So there's really nothing left to discuss.

how about 18-6 with B-Dummy?

Oh ... I forgot. Hotfresh probably thought that BD was a good player too (based on the eye test)


I'm offended I liked Diddy.

Sorry.

Another awful PG!!

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12/29/2012  8:47 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:After loses Woodson said Felton's high shot attempts has to do with how the defense is playing the Knicks after being asked by reporters why is Felton shooting so much. I think its clear opposing teams game plan is to sag off Felton to get him to shoot more. And the reality is Felton is a 39% shooter

U are way to Lin biased for me to take you Felton comments seriously...

You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think I'm biased just realistic. I've seen what Lin can do and he continues to prove to me that I was right in my assessment. Felton continues to prove to me that he is the same player he was in Charlotte, NY(minus 2months), Denver and Portland. A 39% shooter, 30% from 3, points comes on excessive shooting, look no futher than last year in Portland, lack of vision, lack of midrange game, overplays defensively and gets beat but does a good job penetrating and Pn'R. As long as his plays are dumb down like the alley oop to Tyson.

It is hard to explain what Felton is missing if a person does not understand what a real PG sees or needs to see.

Not all of us have 30 years of ball under our belts...

perhaps if you actually had 5 (at guard) you might not be so cloudy.

30 is a bonus

And yes. I obviously see things that you would never understand but I imagine that most people do

haha..not gonna brag bro...My fam is very sports oriented and we all play ball...I have people in my family that has made it to the top in sports...Pro basketball, pro football, pro Soccer (NASL)...I;m here to chat at the Knicks not to wear that stuff on my sleeves...

They must be very proud of you

Every family has a black sheep

I'm the black sheep!!!

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12/29/2012  8:48 PM
Gonna go watch the Houston game now. Lin with 6 assists after the first quarter
We need a PG

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