IrishKnickFan wrote:In regards this is the way i look at it. Originally ther were reports that houston was gonna offer 35-40 million over 4 years which was insane so we are lucky that the price is a lot lower than expected. Now if Lin turns into the player that we though than ot is a bargain at his age and if he scuffles than at least its not a long term contract

If he doesnt produce he will be a bad deal plain and simple. We already know the Knicks have a hard time moving bad deals.

AnubisADL wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:In regards this is the way i look at it. Originally ther were reports that houston was gonna offer 35-40 million over 4 years which was insane so we are lucky that the price is a lot lower than expected. Now if Lin turns into the player that we though than ot is a bargain at his age and if he scuffles than at least its not a long term contract

If he doesnt produce he will be a bad deal plain and simple. We already know the Knicks have a hard time moving bad deals.

Did you not read any of the cba stuff and look at our cap situation?

markvmc wrote:Some quotes found on another site, showing the financial value of Lin (with thanks to Nagel100 on the xscape from elba Knicks site.

"In the last week, the market cap of MSG, Inc., which owns Madison Square Garden and other sports venues, has added $71 million. "Because of Jeremy Lin," Steven Kiel wrote Tuesday, before Lin hit a game winning shot against Toronto, "shares hit a new 52-week high of $32.30. With 62.08 shares outstanding, today's move up of $1.15 means the market thinks Jeremy Lin's weekend success is worth $71.4 million."

"Although Bryant says he “doesn’t even know what Lin has done,” shareholders in Madison Square Garden, Inc., the parent company of the Knicks, do: Since Feb. 4th MSG’s stock price has increased from $29.32 to $31.15 February 10th, or 6%, adding $139 million to the company’s market value. During the same period the S&P 500 has gone up less than 1%"

".According to USA Today, MSG Network has seen ratings increase by 70% since the beginning of the Lin phenomenon. Ratings for the Knicks-Hornets game were 130% higher than for the same game last year -- and ratings drive advertising revenue. According to TiqIQ.com, the average ticket price for a Knicks game on the secondary market catapulted up 33%, from $229 to $304. "

So, from a purely financial viewpoint, Lin's contract is a good deal for Dolan.

Yes so as many said here, Lin's contract has already been paid. I'm sure MSG will reap.more benefits off Lin, though not the same numbers as during Linsanity.

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

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Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

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All I can say now is that Lin better be the real deal or he will hear it from the fans. And if he ain't the real deal we make him sit the second year until he is so frustrated that he would want a buy out for maybe half of the third year.

OK so then both Melo and amare should sit this year, you cool with that? Right.

Papabear Says

Melo and Amare has proved themselves through out the years. Lin has had only 30 games. How can you compare?? You can't!!

I am not comparing anything. You were talking about being the real deal and no player on our roster outside of Tyson and Shump are even close to playing at a level that justifies what we pay for them.

Papabear Says

When Amare first came to the Knicks he played almost a whole season 25 points a game. Melo single handedly took us to the playoffs. I'll tell you what! When those other players you are talking about can play 7 straight years at a high level like Amare and Melo then come talk to me about Lin Shump, and Chandler. Man Chandler needs to work on scoring and rebounding. Defense I'll give him credit.
Back in the day I had a singer like that no one would give him a break but I did and produced a hit record on him. It went to his head and we split up and I continued to produce and write hit songs and he never got another hit song.
What I am saying is that Lin is putting a strain on the team. But business is business you got to look out for yourself.

25 pts a game justifies a max contract??? What about the 35+ points he gives up on defense every night? David Lee produced 20+ a game AND he grabbed 10+ rebounds.

Melo singlehandedly took us to the playoffs???????? Without Lin and the 9 game streak your precious Melo and Amare wouldn't even have sniffed the playoffs in the weakest conference we have seen in a while. Put the kool-aid down and step away from the keyboard.

Papabear Says

Since you are sold on Lin Let's see what he does this year. I really hope he does well this will help us when we trade him for Chris Paul.

Lin was given one chance and he made use of it, He played hard and delivered results and exceeded expectations - what I don't get is why isn't everyobody sold on him?

Papabear Says

because only 25 - 30 games and the Heat destroyed him.

Ok so 25-30 games is too small a sample size? But one bad game against the Heat is enough to convince you?

Papabear Says

Yes and it's his trunovers. And don't tell me about Amare and Melo They've proven themselves through out the years.

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

All I can say now is that Lin better be the real deal or he will hear it from the fans. And if he ain't the real deal we make him sit the second year until he is so frustrated that he would want a buy out for maybe half of the third year.

OK so then both Melo and amare should sit this year, you cool with that? Right.

Papabear Says

Melo and Amare has proved themselves through out the years. Lin has had only 30 games. How can you compare?? You can't!!

I am not comparing anything. You were talking about being the real deal and no player on our roster outside of Tyson and Shump are even close to playing at a level that justifies what we pay for them.

Papabear Says

When Amare first came to the Knicks he played almost a whole season 25 points a game. Melo single handedly took us to the playoffs. I'll tell you what! When those other players you are talking about can play 7 straight years at a high level like Amare and Melo then come talk to me about Lin Shump, and Chandler. Man Chandler needs to work on scoring and rebounding. Defense I'll give him credit.
Back in the day I had a singer like that no one would give him a break but I did and produced a hit record on him. It went to his head and we split up and I continued to produce and write hit songs and he never got another hit song.
What I am saying is that Lin is putting a strain on the team. But business is business you got to look out for yourself.

25 pts a game justifies a max contract??? What about the 35+ points he gives up on defense every night? David Lee produced 20+ a game AND he grabbed 10+ rebounds.

Melo singlehandedly took us to the playoffs???????? Without Lin and the 9 game streak your precious Melo and Amare wouldn't even have sniffed the playoffs in the weakest conference we have seen in a while. Put the kool-aid down and step away from the keyboard.

Papabear Says

Since you are sold on Lin Let's see what he does this year. I really hope he does well this will help us when we trade him for Chris Paul.

Lin was given one chance and he made use of it, He played hard and delivered results and exceeded expectations - what I don't get is why isn't everyobody sold on him?

Papabear Says

because only 25 - 30 games and the Heat destroyed him.

Ok so 25-30 games is too small a sample size? But one bad game against the Heat is enough to convince you?

Papabear Says

Yes and it's his trunovers. And don't tell me about Amare and Melo They've proven themselves through out the years.

Priceless.

Papabear wrote:

crzymdups wrote:This crap about Lin and the Heat needs to stop. The Heat are the NBA champs. Lots of teams had a bad game against them... including the Knicks WITHOUT Lin (Game 1 of the playoffs was a massacre).

Knicks have a lot of work to do to try to beat the heat. it's nowhere near all on Lin.

Papabear Says

If Lin fails every one on this forum supporting him will be ready to throw him under the bus

You just contradicted yourself in an earlier post. First you say his sample size is too small to justify his pay, then you go on to say that he isn't good because of his 1 game against the Heat. You look silly and even sillier for not understanding your own hypocrisy.

If he doesn't fail, then can the board agree to banish you from this forum?

loweyecue wrote:Apparently we still don't have an offersheet from Houston - WTF?

Ha- apparently grunnie is avoiding the courier! They have to give it to him directly but he avoided the courier at the hotel- very petty, but I like it!

this whole Houston/Lin/Knicks thing is an embarrassment for every side involved.

Craziness!

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