RonRon wrote:I do see KG, as a high demand with the way he is finishing on this play off run.
He looks more like the TWolves KG, then ever on Boston, with his shot.
Looking like a easy 10-13m for 2 year contract extension, heck, for performance if Amare can get 20 he shouldn't get a penny less.
Pau Gasol for KG, would help both teams out while giving the teams a new look, Amare's value just isn't near these players right now....

KG is no longer a 4 and would not work well with Bynum because he couldn't out quick his defender but he is the type of player that could help mentor Bynum plus he would accept not being the primary post player and would welcome just playing D, setting picks, and hitting the 15-18 footer. So I can see why the Lakers would do it. I just do not think he is a 4 any more. I think ATL should give up Josh Smith but I doubt the Cs would do it.

Knicksfan wrote:Its time to move Melo. He can't win with other players so trade him.

Also, move Amar'e because we will go nowhere without Melo and anyway, he wants to be in a different sport hitting fire extinguishers and red stuff.

Also move Ty. Why would you need defense if you already lack offense from Amar'e and Melo.

Trade Shump because of the same reason.

Also move Lin who, we all know, has seen his peak and is already damaged goods.

And while we are at it, trade the whole bench because who needs a bench without a starting lineup.

Trade speculation is so fun. The highest point of a Knick fan life. Hey, Dwight may be available and he could recover and be a monster! He'll be beasting in no time!

Rinse and repeat

But hey, we have black and white balls with a "B" just a few blocks from us. Yay!

Loving the enthusiastic sarcasm. +1

JohnStarksFan wrote:

MS wrote:
Remember, Marbury got us to the Playoffs when he was first here, put up all world stats and things got really bad.

A. The team wasn't bad: Houston, Tim Thomas, Kurt Thomas, Van Horn, Charlie Ward
B. They still had a losing record despite the playoffs. East was abysmal that year.

Those other guys don't compare to the supporting cast of STAT, Chandler, Lin, Shump - overall, anyway you look at it it's a good squad. I think we just need to see if they can swallow some pride and play together. There is chemistry and camaraderie, that can do a lot for a squad. Great season or mediocre season Melo's stock is going to stay up. If next year is a bust, then we take this thread seriously.

Settle down, put the crystal ball away, and take it all in.

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

I am for this.

He does not have a good enough team around him to seriously contend. We might as well get asses for him while his value is extremely high.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

I am for this.

He does not have a good enough team around him to seriously contend. We might as well get asses for him while his value is extremely high.

actually this team does not have a good enough max player to contend.. that is how things need to be looked at with carmelo.. enough with blaming the team.. it is getting old as hell.... the guy fails his team more than the team fails him... it has been that way for 10 years now!

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

You are falling for the banana in the tail pipe trick here man... the poll was taken with 30 gm's and from what I heard it wasn't really the GM's who voted.. nevertheless... lebron got 67% durant 33% and carmelo 3%.. so you know what that means my friend.. I will break it down..

30 Gm's voted

20 voted for lebron

9 voted for durant

1 voted for carmelo..... One GM out of 30..

This means absolutely nothing.. his value is no higher now than it was when he first got here..... although I would do anything to trade him now and start over...

As I was watching the nuggets and clippers game last night, which I enjoyed.. I was just furious that we are stuck with the team we have now after looking at those teams.. I mean for christ sakes the clipeprs have odom, matt Barnes, billups and bledsoe on their bench, heck they have willie green who would easily start at SG on the knicks ahead of friggin ronnie "brick" brewer...

The nuggets bench is pretty much the same way... Jeez looking at the knicks is so depressing.. thank god for league pass..

You're right actually. I wasn't thinking carefully about the survey.

it took me a minute.. the survey is very deceiving, when they talk about he came in 3rd..

it wasn't like they asked the GM's to pick 3 players each, and then they tallied how many 1st, 2nd and 3rd place votes each player received, then it would make sense to say he came in 3rd.. but for one GM to pull carmelo's name out of his rear end is hilarious.... in other words, there really shouldn't have been a 3rd place.. just lebron and durant when you look at the numbers.....

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

You are falling for the banana in the tail pipe trick here man... the poll was taken with 30 gm's and from what I heard it wasn't really the GM's who voted.. nevertheless... lebron got 67% durant 33% and carmelo 3%.. so you know what that means my friend.. I will break it down..

30 Gm's voted

20 voted for lebron

9 voted for durant

1 voted for carmelo..... One GM out of 30..

This means absolutely nothing.. his value is no higher now than it was when he first got here..... although I would do anything to trade him now and start over...

As I was watching the nuggets and clippers game last night, which I enjoyed.. I was just furious that we are stuck with the team we have now after looking at those teams.. I mean for christ sakes the clipeprs have odom, matt Barnes, billups and bledsoe on their bench, heck they have willie green who would easily start at SG on the knicks ahead of friggin ronnie "brick" brewer...

The nuggets bench is pretty much the same way... Jeez looking at the knicks is so depressing.. thank god for league pass..

You're right actually. I wasn't thinking carefully about the survey.

it took me a minute.. the survey is very deceiving, when they talk about he came in 3rd..

it wasn't like they asked the GM's to pick 3 players each, and then they tallied how many 1st, 2nd and 3rd place votes each player received, then it would make sense to say he came in 3rd.. but for one GM to pull carmelo's name out of his rear end is hilarious.... in other words, there really shouldn't have been a 3rd place.. just lebron and durant when you look at the numbers.....

Yeah, I just glanced at it and assumed they did what you mentioned - asked GMs to rank players and he got the third most total votes when everything was tallied.

Or its Billy King as he knows Melo gets grilled.

The larger the starphuch the harder they fall.

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

I am for this.

He does not have a good enough team around him to seriously contend. We might as well get asses for him while his value is extremely high.

actually this team does not have a good enough max player to contend.. that is how things need to be looked at with carmelo.. enough with blaming the team.. it is getting old as hell.... the guy fails his team more than the team fails him... it has been that way for 10 years now!

The knicks don't have THREE good enough max players to contend. You are in a fog.

You need to get a life

no they don't.. one can't stay healthy( and I am an amare fan) the other in chandler is a good player, but he shouldn't be considered a max talent, and carmelo, please, the guy is a colossal playoff failure in sneakers..... if anything you are in a fog, you have nothing to back up your beliefs except that " you believe".. that is good if you are rolling with Jessie jackson, but this is the NBA and you are in another world bro...

talk about get a life? rofl, look in the mirror bro..

Well Tyson is not on a max contract anyway. I think the max you can get depends on how long you've been in the league but is usually around $80 mil or more. Tyson got $56 mil. He easily earned his money last year.

he got paid on par with other centers in the league pretty much... as i said, he is not a max talent or player which is why I am not sure the poster said we had 3 max contracts or players..... but i have no problem with how he played last year...

arkrud wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Bump. GMs vote Melo 3rd most likely to win NBA MVP!
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/26482/gms-nyk-2nd-in-atlantic-melo-3rd-in-mvp
This further reinforces my view that now is the time to trade him.

I am for this.

He does not have a good enough team around him to seriously contend. We might as well get asses for him while his value is extremely high.

actually this team does not have a good enough max player to contend.. that is how things need to be looked at with carmelo.. enough with blaming the team.. it is getting old as hell.... the guy fails his team more than the team fails him... it has been that way for 10 years now!

The knicks don't have THREE good enough max players to contend. You are in a fog.

You need to get a life

no they don't.. one can't stay healthy( and I am an amare fan) the other in chandler is a good player, but he shouldn't be considered a max talent, and carmelo, please, the guy is a colossal playoff failure in sneakers..... if anything you are in a fog, you have nothing to back up your beliefs except that " you believe".. that is good if you are rolling with Jessie jackson, but this is the NBA and you are in another world bro...

talk about get a life? rofl, look in the mirror bro..

Well Tyson is not on a max contract anyway. I think the max you can get depends on how long you've been in the league but is usually around $80 mil or more. Tyson got $56 mil. He easily earned his money last year.

he got paid on par with other centers in the league pretty much... as i said, he is not a max talent or player which is why I am not sure the poster said we had 3 max contracts or players..... but i have no problem with how he played last year...

NBA players cost is based on demand and supply.
Players with unique talent like LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Waid, Supperman are counted. Not every team can get it not tlaking about getting 2 or 3. So here is max price.
Chandler is good defensive center with limited offense and he prised in his range fairly.
Melo is overpaid becouse he is a unique offensive player but his other qualities - defense, team skills, passing and court vision, leadesheep are lacking. Dolan need somebody who looks like max guy so he took Melo as it was no other player willing to play for Knicks and Jimmy sore a..ss.
Stat was always overpaid because of his health issues and zero defense.
We also paid a lot of money for players who should retire or get veteran minimum.
Jimmy get scared of Russian in Brooklyn and panicked big time.
You cannot show Russians from Brooklyn any fier. They will get you a...sss get hang in a NY minute.

pretty much agree......