ChuckBuck wrote:1 for 1, Dwight is better obviously. That's not a question. But do you break up the best front court in the NBA to slightly improve the Center position and downgrade at PF (TurkeyDoodoo)? Any trades involving Dwight destroys the Knicks strength, their front court...aren't the Knicks supposed to improve their weakness(Backcourt)? It's like upgrading Tom Brady for Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knows Rodgers is the best in the game, but Tom Brady is still pretty dam good! It's the old trading the position of strength problem, we're already good there.

Right now got to say no. It would be a mistake. We'd have chemistry issues all over again and we'd wouldn't have a consistent scorer inside especially come playoff time. Dwight shrinks Mare excels

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:1 for 1, Dwight is better obviously. That's not a question. But do you break up the best front court in the NBA to slightly improve the Center position and downgrade at PF (TurkeyDoodoo)? Any trades involving Dwight destroys the Knicks strength, their front court...aren't the Knicks supposed to improve their weakness(Backcourt)? It's like upgrading Tom Brady for Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knows Rodgers is the best in the game, but Tom Brady is still pretty dam good! It's the old trading the position of strength problem, we're already good there.

Right now got to say no. It would be a mistake. We'd have chemistry issues all over again and we'd wouldn't have a consistent scorer inside especially come playoff time. Dwight shrinks Mare excels

Amare=Beast Mode in the Playoffs
Dwight=Hack a Dwight in the 4th qtr of playoff games, see him build a homeless shelter at the FT line

colombian0725 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:1 for 1, Dwight is better obviously. That's not a question. But do you break up the best front court in the NBA to slightly improve the Center position and downgrade at PF (TurkeyDoodoo)? Any trades involving Dwight destroys the Knicks strength, their front court...aren't the Knicks supposed to improve their weakness(Backcourt)? It's like upgrading Tom Brady for Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knows Rodgers is the best in the game, but Tom Brady is still pretty dam good! It's the old trading the position of strength problem, we're already good there.

Tom Brady doesn't have the Same Talented receivers that Rodgers has. Out side of Brady's TE's and Welker they have decent receivers. Rodgers has a better Receiving core. Finely is not far behind Gronk. Nelson,Driver,Jenning's > Welker,Branch and Chad Johnson.

Green Bay also has had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Only played a few top 10 defenses. Last year Brady played atleast 8 of the top 10 defenses and posted 33 TD's and 4 ints. 14-2 with a **** defense. Don't get me wrong Rodgers is great but what Brady did last season against the defenses he faced last season. Brady had a tougher schedule last season and this season.

Should we start a football thread in the Off Topic Forums? Just wanted to make a comparison, let's say Dwight Howard is #1 Center and (Top 3 player) in the league. Amare is maybe top 3 or 4 PF and Top 10-12 player in league. You already have a top 3 Small forward and top 10 Center (Finished 3rd in Defensive Player of the Year). So you already have 3 Top 10 players in the frontcourt, and to get that #1 Center you lose the top front court in the NBA, scrap whatever chemistry was developing, and start from scratch. You downgrade, because Chandler will have to be involved, and Turkeydoodoo is a clear downgrade at whatever position he plays, as well as, being stuck with Hedo for the next 3 years...Just a terrible idea all around.

and I don't think Amar'e is traded... unless this season is a big disappointment, they bring in a new coach, maybe they look to move him next summer.

ChuckBuck wrote:1 for 1, Dwight is better obviously. That's not a question. But do you break up the best front court in the NBA to slightly improve the Center position and downgrade at PF (TurkeyDoodoo)? Any trades involving Dwight destroys the Knicks strength, their front court...aren't the Knicks supposed to improve their weakness(Backcourt)? It's like upgrading Tom Brady for Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knows Rodgers is the best in the game, but Tom Brady is still pretty dam good! It's the old trading the position of strength problem, we're already good there.

In my opinion:

Melo + Amar'e + Chandler >>>>>>>> Dwight + Melo + whatever

because that whatever will be Turkeyglue or whatever he can fetch on the market

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Damn! This guy put up 45/23 last night.

This is why Melo+Dwight+Hedo > Melo+Amar'e+Chandler, to my mind.

Dwight > http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

Turkoglu is a stretch four, which is what you NEED with both Melo and Howard on the same team. Hes a lethal shooter, playmaker, pnr option, major mismatch, could be a bench scorer/facilitator.

I'd give up Amare, Chandler and Shumpert for Howard and Turk.

Baron
Fields
Melo
Turk
Howard

Douglas
Walker
Balk
Harrelson
Jeffries

contender. you can be competitive with superstars and a thin roster as long as there are legitimate shooters and the team plays defense

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Still don't get what's so special about Dwight Howard. Dude's a fantasy player! Fills up the stat sheet nothing more. He's been in the league 8 years, and he couldn't even sniff what a great center is all about. No post moves, crappy FT shooter...does this guy even have a Jumper? Olajuwon in his prime would eat this guy for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner. He couldn't hold a candle to the original Superman, Shaq! Guy is just David Robinson without a jumper!

David Lee is a fantasy player. Dwight Howard is a force.

It's true, there are some shorts in his game, but this is not so important; they said the same thing about Shaq.

Who can guard this guy? No one. Who will score on him? No one.

The guy is defensive player of the year for three years.

God I wish we could put Dwight Howard in Shaq's, Ewing's, Olajuwon's era...then you'd see how great he'd be

He's lucky to be in a center-less era where being 6'10 and 250 lbs constitutes a center..SMH

ChuckBuck wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Still don't get what's so special about Dwight Howard. Dude's a fantasy player! Fills up the stat sheet nothing more. He's been in the league 8 years, and he couldn't even sniff what a great center is all about. No post moves, crappy FT shooter...does this guy even have a Jumper? Olajuwon in his prime would eat this guy for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner. He couldn't hold a candle to the original Superman, Shaq! Guy is just David Robinson without a jumper!

David Lee is a fantasy player. Dwight Howard is a force.

It's true, there are some shorts in his game, but this is not so important; they said the same thing about Shaq.

Who can guard this guy? No one. Who will score on him? No one.

The guy is defensive player of the year for three years.

God I wish we could put Dwight Howard in Shaq's, Ewing's, Olajuwon's era...then you'd see how great he'd be

He's lucky to be in a center-less era where being 6'10 and 250 lbs constitutes a center..SMH

I think a lot of people feel this way. I am one of them. And let's not sell off Mar'e just yet. I've said he's hurting us the most right now, but we need to hold off judgment until he has a PG feeding him.