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Panos
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12/8/2011  2:44 PM
If this goes down, and 'Antoni doesn't play Chandler (or not much), its time for him to go.
nixluva, can I get a witness?

BTW, know who would be a good coach for this team (with Chandler)?
Wait for it... Riley.

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12/8/2011  2:44 PM
Otis Smith right now:

Bidding for Howard just went up if that CP3 trade goes through.

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12/8/2011  2:44 PM
crzymdups wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
If the deal goes through, the Knicks use amnesty on Chauncey Billups and move Ronny Turiaf to make room for Chandler, sources say.
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man, that deal goes through, forget Paul, spend that money and lets win it all.

Chris Paul is no sure thing considering that he could be dealt to a contender. Hell even if he goes to the Celtic whom he said he won't resign with; say if they win it all, does anyone really believe he wouldn't want to defend it? Winning changes a lot of things

If he gets traded to somewhere like the Lakers, he'd more than likely sign with them.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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12/8/2011  2:44 PM
Panos wrote:If this goes down, and 'Antoni doesn't play Chandler (or not much), its time for him to go.
nixluva, can I get a witness?

BTW, know who would be a good coach for this team (with Chandler)?
Wait for it... Riley.

I was thinking the same thing!

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12/8/2011  2:44 PM

I really like Amare as he is the most explosive 4 in the league.

But team first.

The team is more balanced with cp3-melo-Chandler than with Amare. I don't see how AMare and Melo get enough ball on the wing where both are effective.

As I said before, the right pt guard in SSOL need not be a star.

BUt, on paper

CP3
Tyson
Melo

Can compete with Miami because we are balanced. The key is who plays the power forward. Shawn williams camped in the corner is pretty good. It takes the opponents 4 away from the basket if he doubles on Melo. Double on Melo and Shawn can pop the 3.

I don't want to lose Amare but team first.

Yeah,I'd feel bad to ditch Amare down in NOLA. Perhaps Nola can swing him to the Lakers. Amare-Pau-Kobe would be pretty intense in its own.

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12/8/2011  2:46 PM
Panos wrote:If this goes down, and 'Antoni doesn't play Chandler (or not much), its time for him to go.
nixluva, can I get a witness?

BTW, know who would be a good coach for this team (with Chandler)?
Wait for it... Riley.

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martin wrote:
Panos wrote:If this goes down, and 'Antoni doesn't play Chandler (or not much), its time for him to go.
nixluva, can I get a witness?

BTW, know who would be a good coach for this team (with Chandler)?
Wait for it... Riley.

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crzymdups wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
If Knicks amnesty Billups and move Turiaf, they could offer Chandler a four-year deal starting at about $14M.
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and who plays point guard. Tony Douglas has never learned to run a team and Imam, though heralded by Knick fans is an unproven commodity. This team is not going to be run by a rook. Bank on that cause Mike D knows his head is on the chopping block. Why do you think he's so interested in Vets that can defend like Josh Howard and stability guys like Hill.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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Nalod wrote:
I really like Amare as he is the most explosive 4 in the league.

But team first.

The team is more balanced with cp3-melo-Chandler than with Amare. I don't see how AMare and Melo get enough ball on the wing where both are effective.

As I said before, the right pt guard in SSOL need not be a star.

BUt, on paper

CP3
Tyson
Melo

Can compete with Miami because we are balanced. The key is who plays the power forward. Shawn williams camped in the corner is pretty good. It takes the opponents 4 away from the basket if he doubles on Melo. Double on Melo and Shawn can pop the 3.

I don't want to lose Amare but team first.

Yeah,I'd feel bad to ditch Amare down in NOLA. Perhaps Nola can swing him to the Lakers. Amare-Pau-Kobe would be pretty intense in its own.


Then trade Melo. CP3, STAT, Chandler. I want to see STAT and Chandler together. Perfect compliments. Beast!

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12/8/2011  2:48 PM
This is a great move, one that i never considered a possibility. Fact is, we would have one of the best centers in the league. There are no good centers available next summer and very few ever hit the trade market. We might as well hit the salary cap built around a core of Stoudemire, Anthony, Chandler, and Fields and spend the next 8-10 months finding a good PG. If none come up by the deadline, i know Nash will be a strong possibility at the mid-level next summer, as would Sessions and Augustine. This is very exciting and i am absolutely on board with it. Definitely gives us a huge lift at the position over a team like Miami.
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12/8/2011  2:48 PM

I think Chandlers play really opened things up for Dirk to be a better Dirk.

Not that having a solid QB in Kidd on the court hurts........

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12/8/2011  2:48 PM
Tyson is getting mucho scratch, but isn't this what we've all been asking for? Isn't this kind of player exactly what we need?

1. Providing Amare doesn't get shopped (fingers crossed), we desperately need someone to guard the bruisers. Amare did so bravely but he's not a good defender and we saw the effects of the punishment as the season wore on. This allows him to match up against the other team's power forward, a much better situation for him. We have a huge investment in the guy--need to protect him.

2. CP3 would have been nice, but this offense runs through Melo and as far as I'm concerned we just need a PG who can throw an entry pass, defend and hit an open shot. We can get that without shelling out a max deal.

3. If we want to contend we can't kid ourselves--we need to get through Miami and they're vulnerable at C.

4. We don't need our C to be an offensive weapon. We need him to drop the hammer.

5. Finally, for the first time this seems like a decision with winning basketball games as the motivation, not selling T-shirts. CP3 Knicks jerseys would fly off the shelves faster than Tyson Chandler ones.

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DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
If Knicks amnesty Billups and move Turiaf, they could offer Chandler a four-year deal starting at about $14M.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

and who plays point guard. Tony Douglas has never learned to run a team and Imam, though heralded by Knick fans is an unproven commodity. This team is not going to be run by a rook. Bank on that cause Mike D knows his head is on the chopping block. Why do you think he's so interested in Vets that can defend like Josh Howard and stability guys like Hill.

Mike D'Antoni will play point guard.

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12/8/2011  2:48 PM
Nalod wrote:
I really like Amare as he is the most explosive 4 in the league.

But team first.

The team is more balanced with cp3-melo-Chandler than with Amare. I don't see how AMare and Melo get enough ball on the wing where both are effective.

As I said before, the right pt guard in SSOL need not be a star.

BUt, on paper

CP3
Tyson
Melo

Can compete with Miami because we are balanced. The key is who plays the power forward. Shawn williams camped in the corner is pretty good. It takes the opponents 4 away from the basket if he doubles on Melo. Double on Melo and Shawn can pop the 3.

I don't want to lose Amare but team first.

Yeah,I'd feel bad to ditch Amare down in NOLA. Perhaps Nola can swing him to the Lakers. Amare-Pau-Kobe would be pretty intense in its own.

Et tu, Nalod? Loyalty man. Amare is in the same company as Ewing, Oakley, Starks for me.

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Childs2Dudley wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:so the knicks are not putting all their eggs in the CP3 basket like they did with Lebron. Smart I guess

They're putting all their eggs in the Chandler basket. The move kills any cap space for the next 4 years.

It's okay to speak on the shortcomings of Chandler. I get there are some.

But saying that this move kills our cap space for 4 seasons is a lazy argument. We have 2 Super stars and one of the best C's in the game along with a young talented bench. I would say our cap space has been well spent if Chandler comes here and we can get a PG to distribute.

Maybe you overspend when you're a contender but on Chandler? C'mon man. The guy is mediocre. 8 points, 8 rebounds. He's solid. he's never been known to be a workhorse, he has an injury history. $14 million a year is above overpaying. It's insanity. I would like this guy at $8 million a year. Right now we're $6 million a year over what he should really be getting.

I was always in favor of using next year's $14 million in cap space on 2 or 3 solid players, including a center. Camby would be a free agent. Camby and Nash in one offseason would have been solid, despite their age.

Now we're all-in on Chandler and have no cap space for 4 years and only the vets minimum and MLE to offer to anyone.

Oh and we have Toney Douglas as our starting PG.

I am totally fine with Chandlers avg. numbers because he;s not here to score. he's here to defend, rebound and be a presence in the middle. You spend on him now because we are all in now, not 3 or 4 seasons down the road. That's why we gave up so much for Melo. Risking an opportunity like this in the hopes that CP3, Deron or Dwight come here would be foolish. This front court would be crazy good and would allow STAT to be even better than he was last year.

This way, we get to keep Landry, TD (not a good PG, but can shoot), Iman, future picks, $3 Million trade allowance, etc.

This is the right move. A better move than trading for CP3. And I always thought that.

Now I jsut hope it actaully happens.

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12/8/2011  2:50 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
If Knicks amnesty Billups and move Turiaf, they could offer Chandler a four-year deal starting at about $14M.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

and who plays point guard. Tony Douglas has never learned to run a team and Imam, though heralded by Knick fans is an unproven commodity. This team is not going to be run by a rook. Bank on that cause Mike D knows his head is on the chopping block. Why do you think he's so interested in Vets that can defend like Josh Howard and stability guys like Hill.

Mike D'Antoni will play point guard.

JJ Barrea would be a good pick up.

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NYKBocker wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
If Knicks amnesty Billups and move Turiaf, they could offer Chandler a four-year deal starting at about $14M.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

and who plays point guard. Tony Douglas has never learned to run a team and Imam, though heralded by Knick fans is an unproven commodity. This team is not going to be run by a rook. Bank on that cause Mike D knows his head is on the chopping block. Why do you think he's so interested in Vets that can defend like Josh Howard and stability guys like Hill.

Mike D'Antoni will play point guard.

JJ Barrea would be a good pick up.

Barrea isn't a good distributor. I'd rather have Tinsley to be honest.

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12/8/2011  2:54 PM
I really am excited at the possibility that this deal could happen and really solidify the frontcourt. There are PLENTY of PG options out there for very little money. Sessions, Tinsley, Baron Davis, TJ Ford, JJ Berea. The Knicks could work a sign and trade of Turiaf and his expiring for one of these guys or just sing them to an MLE. In any event once they get Chandler the Knicks will have several options for getting a PG and they won't be scrubs.
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