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MaTT4281
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2/21/2011  10:38 PM
Solace wrote:
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martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Are the Nugs getting our first rounder and Minny's first rounder?

and apparently our future second rounders.

I just saw we included the 2nd rounders from GS?!
Man, I was finally feeling good that NY wasn't the laughingstock of the trade community anymore. A pretty girl smiled at us and we went out and bought her a diamond ring.

I'm not sure I like this trade at all. Happy we kept Fields and Amar'e, but those are like the only critical pieces we kept. Why didn't we just toss Amar'e in too? Ha.

Ya, I'm not too happy with it.

I'm sure once we all see Melo in blue and orange, and he starts performing, it'll help ease the lost...but man, all that leverage and this is the trade we got?
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2/21/2011  10:38 PM
It all depends on what happens at the PG position. Whether Billups can run the D'Antoni O and/or whether we can get Paul or Deron for the future. Amare and Melo are good but they will need someone to feed them the rock efficiently.
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2/21/2011  10:38 PM
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

for the second round?

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2/21/2011  10:39 PM
We traded a lot, but at the end of the day we made the right deal. We will need to add depth and another center, but that process should be much smoother than this was for us.
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2/21/2011  10:39 PM
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Allanfan20 wrote:We just f'ed ourselves.

nonsense. If I'm an elite PG, where would I like to sign in UFA? A team with two of the best offensive forwards in the league? Or the current team, with a bunch of role players? Or just stay where you are?

The team is a .500 team. Chauncey Billups isn't as good as Felton now, but he can hit a deep shot. Melo and Amar'e give a shot at a first round upset. Would you want to play the Knicks?

I am happy

If I'm an opposing team, I'm looking at our frontcourt and drooling. Then I'm looking at Amar'e and thinking "Wow, he gets into foul woes easily anyway, now it's going to be easier. We are going to get demolished defensively.

How is this different than it before the All Star break? Our front court was soft and is soft. We can improve that moving forward. e got significantly better in other areas.

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2/21/2011  10:39 PM
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

Come on. Carmelo is good, but he's not in Garnett's league. Let's get real. Carmelo is barely in the top 15 in the NBA, IMHO.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/21/2011  10:40 PM
Knixkik wrote:We traded a lot, but at the end of the day we made the right deal. We will need to add depth and another center, but that process should be much smoother than this was for us.

Oh yeah? How do you explain this with no capspace, draft pics and with a possibility of wiping out the MLE after the new CBA?

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2/21/2011  10:40 PM
I dont like to be vulgar but this was an a n a l r a p i n g of a trade. This trade has brought vomit to my mouth.Wer got played as hard as you can get played. if we satyed pact--does anyone think melo would ebg aNet to be frank and honest. We gave them everything they wanted and more.

for this you deserve shaq at 23 years old. Not a wing player who scores 25 points. Anyone who is old enough knows that bernad King was far above carmelo--and we were just a fair team with many good additional pieces.

every few years brings real downers I don't like/condone violence nor would I want to pick on a guy who is smaller and older then me--but I would love to jack up Dolan one time up against the wall and remind him that its not just his team.

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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

for the second round?

depends on the matchups and depends how they fine-tune the roster.

also, before this trade we were not getting out of the first round.

how else do you propose getting past miami/boston/orlando?

stars wins in this league.

we have two legit top ten players now.

i'd say that makes us perennial contenders.

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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

for the second round?

2nd round this year..get more pieces and we advance further next year..Steps...with the previous roster we were a 1st round punching bag. Felton has really dropped off last month, Gallo & Chandler are inconsistent city. You guys will be laughing at yourselves in a year thinking this is a bad trade.
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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
VDesai wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:We just f'ed ourselves.

nonsense. If I'm an elite PG, where would I like to sign in UFA? A team with two of the best offensive forwards in the league? Or the current team, with a bunch of role players? Or just stay where you are?

The team is a .500 team. Chauncey Billups isn't as good as Felton now, but he can hit a deep shot. Melo and Amar'e give a shot at a first round upset. Would you want to play the Knicks?

I am happy


Thats what I'm hoping. This becomes a major success if we get Deron or Paul. If not we made a huge mistake in giving up Felton who's def. a tier below but a very good PG.

We can fill in the rest of the gaps and already have good roleplayers like Fields, Douglas, Shawne, Turiaf.

I think this is a fantastic chess move. And Fields isn't a forward right now. This is awesome.

Look at the packages given up for KG and Shaq. More expensive than this. The Kobe to the Bulls deal fell apart becue the Bulls wanted to keep Luol Deeng. I bet the Bulls are glad they kept Luol Deng

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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:We just f'ed ourselves.

nonsense. If I'm an elite PG, where would I like to sign in UFA? A team with two of the best offensive forwards in the league? Or the current team, with a bunch of role players? Or just stay where you are?

The team is a .500 team. Chauncey Billups isn't as good as Felton now, but he can hit a deep shot. Melo and Amar'e give a shot at a first round upset. Would you want to play the Knicks?

I am happy

If I'm an opposing team, I'm looking at our frontcourt and drooling. Then I'm looking at Amar'e and thinking "Wow, he gets into foul woes easily anyway, now it's going to be easier. We are going to get demolished defensively.

How is this different than it before the All Star break? Our front court was soft and is soft. We can improve that moving forward. e got significantly better in other areas.

How can we possibily improve it now? At least we could hope AR and Mozgov would develop. Now we don't have that, and both and very large upsides.... which we traded AR for NOTHING! NOTHING!!

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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

for the second round?

Yeah but the C's had enough left to also get Ray Allen. We need our Ray Allen. You can say Amare+Felton is close to KG and Pierce but we still need and Allen and have to hope there's a Rondo potential on the roster.

Its interesting Fields, Douglas, Rautins etc. weren't traded. Young, cheap talent. Even Williams or Walker to some degree.

The fact that Fields wasn't traded gives me hope that Donnie still has some influence back there....I hope...
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2/21/2011  10:41 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
Solace wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Are the Nugs getting our first rounder and Minny's first rounder?

and apparently our future second rounders.

I just saw we included the 2nd rounders from GS?!
Man, I was finally feeling good that NY wasn't the laughingstock of the trade community anymore. A pretty girl smiled at us and we went out and bought her a diamond ring.

I'm not sure I like this trade at all. Happy we kept Fields and Amar'e, but those are like the only critical pieces we kept. Why didn't we just toss Amar'e in too? Ha.

Ya, I'm not too happy with it.

I'm sure once we all see Melo in blue and orange, and he starts performing, it'll help ease the lost...but man, all that leverage and this is the trade we got?

Yeah. I would've waited. There was no way Melo was signing somewhere else unless Denver S+T'd him to another team out of spite, like the Bulls or Lakers. Otherwise, he was totally ours. The price was too steep and we know we got played, but we let it happen anyway. Disappointed, for sure.

I'll be excited once I see this team in the playoffs, but yikes, we have some major depth problems. I don't like our bench all that much after this trade and I think we're very weak at center now.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/21/2011  10:42 PM
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Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

Sorry but I may be in minority but F' Walsh. Take a stand and don't give up too much. Lets bring back Isiah and really F up this team.

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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2/21/2011  10:42 PM
For like 6 years Dolan lets Isiah do what he wants and dictate every deal.... and the first moment Donnie works a significant trade and he decides to poke his head in and take over. Unreal.
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2/21/2011  10:43 PM
Checkmate, Isiah. Checkmate.

You win.

I lose.

I will announce my resignation from this franchise the same day as Walsh.

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2/21/2011  10:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2011  10:44 PM
martin wrote:For like 6 years Dolan lets Isiah do what he wants and dictate every deal.... and the first moment Donnie works a significant trade and he decides to poke his head in and take over. Unreal.

Assuming that's what happened, yeah, I'm very disappointed if that is the case. Might as well bring Isiah back as the GM. Stephon Marbury can play backup point. Maybe we can get Zach Randolph back too. Hrm...

We haven't had a team with that kind of chemistry in about 12 years and we gave it up in one fell swoop.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/21/2011  10:45 PM
I love Carmelo more than most. Plus he is ONLY 26 yrs old, BUT right now I am sick to my stomach. F Dolan, Walsh and Isiah
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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2/21/2011  10:45 PM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ramanboy33 wrote:The Knicks just stole Carmelo.

Yeah, basically.

I think we might look back on this as our Kevin Garnet trade.

Celtics gave up Al Jefferson, Gomes, Telfair, multiple draft picks etc and Celts fans were actually upset at the price and thought they didn't have any depth left. Think they like the KG trade now?

This trade makes us CONTENDERS for 4-5 years. CONTENDERS.

for the second round?

depends on the matchups and depends how they fine-tune the roster.

also, before this trade we were not getting out of the first round.

how else do you propose getting past miami/boston/orlando?

stars wins in this league.

we have two legit top ten players now.

i'd say that makes us perennial contenders.

Miami has 2 legit superstars who play defense and offense and another high level all-star. NY has 2 elite scorers.

Chicago has a MVP-type PG and defense and depth.

OKC has 2 elite scorers and depth, picks, and cap space.

LAL has depth, defense, MVP guy.

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