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10/29/2010  10:39 PM
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NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

They have the height to rebound and are playing more of a traditional line up than D'Antoni usually plays. There are a lot of things wrong with the coach and I have no problem pointing them out but I was excited about how the team played tonight right until the end.
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10/29/2010  10:41 PM
Our defense in this game is very good. We have a lot of shot blockers now. The only thing missing is the rebounding. We faced a very good Celtic team and we gave them fits. The Knicks are going in the right direction.
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10/29/2010  10:43 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

I don't believe that. The one thing a coach can teach is rebounding. You box out your man and go get the ball. Not that hard. This is one thing I can blame MDA.

Thats cool, but as I expected GustavBahler open the can of worms.

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10/29/2010  10:44 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

They have the height to rebound and are playing more of a traditional line up than D'Antoni usually plays. There are a lot of things wrong with the coach and I have no problem pointing them out but I was excited about how the team played tonight right until the end.

Just glad they played with some pride. Last few years all they did was talk when they played Boston.

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10/29/2010  10:44 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.


Yeah but did you see our defense? How hard we played and how close this game was considering we didn't even get anything from Gallo! Mike is a great coach and as this season moves along and this team continues to jell and learn from him it's gonna be fun to watch. We haven't even come close to seeing the best this team has to offer.

Let's remember just how good the C's are. They are one of the biggest and deepest teams in the league and they have TONS of experience. We came in with what we already know is a weak rebounding team. There's not much we can do to fix that at this point but the rebounds wasn't the only problem it was missed FT's, Missed shots and some real bad mental lapses on D. But the team is getting it and faster than I expected.

I liked the way we pushed the tempo early and I thought we kind of lost our way and slowed down too much. Also the defense was really causing the C's problems, but they just have so many weapons and so much size.

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10/29/2010  10:45 PM
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

I don't believe that. The one thing a coach can teach is rebounding. You box out your man and go get the ball. Not that hard. This is one thing I can blame MDA.

Thats cool, but as I expected GustavBahler open the can of worms.


Lol expected? From my long history of can of worm....opening?

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10/29/2010  10:46 PM
nixluva wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.


Yeah but did you see our defense? How hard we played and how close this game was considering we didn't even get anything from Gallo! Mike is a great coach and as this season moves along and this team continues to jell and learn from him it's gonna be fun to watch. We haven't even come close to seeing the best this team has to offer.

Let's remember just how good the C's are. They are one of the biggest and deepest teams in the league and they have TONS of experience. We came in with what we already know is a weak rebounding team. There's not much we can do to fix that at this point but the rebounds wasn't the only problem it was missed FT's, Missed shots and some real bad mental lapses on D. But the team is getting it and faster than I expected.

I liked the way we pushed the tempo early and I thought we kind of lost our way and slowed down too much. Also the defense was really causing the C's problems, but they just have so many weapons and so much size.

Definately. Just a little fine tuning and we should be very competetive this year.

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10/29/2010  10:47 PM
Turiaf has been much more impressive now that the preseason is done. He is blocking shots like he did his first year with the Warriors.
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10/29/2010  10:47 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

I don't believe that. The one thing a coach can teach is rebounding. You box out your man and go get the ball. Not that hard. This is one thing I can blame MDA.

Thats cool, but as I expected GustavBahler open the can of worms.


Lol expected? From my long history of can of worm....opening?

no offense dude, just saying...

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10/29/2010  10:49 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Turiaf has been much more impressive now that the preseason is done. He is blocking shots like he did his first year with the Warriors.

He also moves well without the ball, caught a nice pass and finished strong, thought he was more of a post player.

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10/29/2010  10:55 PM
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
rp wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Rondo had a career night and they still were in the game with less than a minute to go. We don't even have Randolph back. The talent is there, even without Melo. D'Antoni can't say he doesn't have enough talent to get to the next level. Time to earn his paycheck.

Right, blame coaching for lack of rebounding...

Actually, you can blame a coach for lack of rebounding. You need to instill a gang rebound mentality.

As i was expecting :) here you go! Team is talented but they are not made to rebound.

I don't believe that. The one thing a coach can teach is rebounding. You box out your man and go get the ball. Not that hard. This is one thing I can blame MDA.

Thats cool, but as I expected GustavBahler open the can of worms.


Lol expected? From my long history of can of worm....opening?

no offense dude, just saying...

I'm not mad RP. I've always said coach should get 4 years, I understood why they were bad the last few years but now I want to see some results this season. Not miracles, just a competitive team that doesn't play sloppy. Not much to ask. Just read the game thread, we were getting blown out and I was commenting on all the great things the team was doing. Nothing about coach. Just one comment in a thread of mostly positive remarks.

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10/29/2010  10:55 PM
Someone please tell Wilson that he doesn't have the range to be shooting 7 threes. Cut the threes and he's 8-13 from the field.
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10/29/2010  10:56 PM
I'm seeing a team that looks like it's been well coached. TO be looking this tough this early is a good sign IMO. They have a LOOOOONG way to go tho, cuz there are some things that just kill this team. For one thing Felton has to stop starting the play from 10 behind the 3pt line. He's making Amare and Moz have to come out too far to set a pick and he also is making it hard to feed the post from so far. It's too easy to reach in and tip the ball. They had one or 2 plays were Felton got into the teeth of the D and then went PnR and it was much better for Amare. Mike MUST get Felton to learn how to play in traffic more and start the PnR much closer to the basket.
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10/29/2010  11:08 PM
Keeping it close and Amar'e Stoudemire staying healthy was good enough for me tonight.

But I'm really starting to hate Danilo Gallinari. He's reminding me of Quentin Richardson. Big mouth who talks a good game but doesn't show up. That's two games Gallo has taken off. This is not Italy. Either go on the IL or contribute in some way. If you're too scared or not good enough to drive the rock, that's fine. If you want to be Vladimir Radmanovic or Brad Lohaus and just shoot the three, that's cool. JUST F'N MAKE THEM ONCE IN AWHILE! GALLO HAS BEEN USELESS SO FAR!!!

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10/29/2010  11:08 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm seeing a team that looks like it's been well coached. TO be looking this tough this early is a good sign IMO. They have a LOOOOONG way to go tho, cuz there are some things that just kill this team. For one thing Felton has to stop starting the play from 10 behind the 3pt line. He's making Amare and Moz have to come out too far to set a pick and he also is making it hard to feed the post from so far. It's too easy to reach in and tip the ball. They had one or 2 plays were Felton got into the teeth of the D and then went PnR and it was much better for Amare. Mike MUST get Felton to learn how to play in traffic more and start the PnR much closer to the basket.
I am far from ready to say that it is coaching. The one thing I will say is that it appears that D'Antoni is comfortable allowing Amare to be the man on and off the court. Amare was absolutley right when he described himself as fierce. He is the most intense competitor, the hardest working, most vocal and best player on the team. His presence has made a huge a difference. Scoring the last six points tonight was pretty amazing.
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10/29/2010  11:15 PM
This was pretty much the same story as the first game. Amare and Chandler both took some dumb shots and forced the issue, but they also made timely buckets when needed. Chandler's 1-7 from 3 was horrible, but three of those attempts came in the last minute where he was trying to win the game. Yeah it should've gone to a better 3-pt shooter, but really...other than Gallo, who sat nearly the entire game, who else would you really want taking that three? I was perfectly fine that Chandler took that attempt with 21 secs left when he was wide open. Sucks that he missed it, but that was a shot he had to take.

Where we failed was our inability to watch backdoor cutters or lobs from Rondo to KG/Shaq. Most of his assists came from that rather than penetration. Sucks to lose and there's some clear kinks we need to work out (rebounding, less iso play from 20 feet away from the basket), but it's already apparent we're much better than last year's squad, especially on defense.

Gallo is killing his trade value though, which sucks, cause he needs to be the centerpiece of a Melo trade since we have no use for him if we do get Melo.

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10/29/2010  11:17 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm seeing a team that looks like it's been well coached. TO be looking this tough this early is a good sign IMO. They have a LOOOOONG way to go tho, cuz there are some things that just kill this team. For one thing Felton has to stop starting the play from 10 behind the 3pt line. He's making Amare and Moz have to come out too far to set a pick and he also is making it hard to feed the post from so far. It's too easy to reach in and tip the ball. They had one or 2 plays were Felton got into the teeth of the D and then went PnR and it was much better for Amare. Mike MUST get Felton to learn how to play in traffic more and start the PnR much closer to the basket.

Excellent point on the PnR. Felton is definately too far from the basket for the PnR to be effective.

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10/29/2010  11:17 PM
scoshin wrote:Gallo is killing his trade value though, which sucks, cause he needs to be the centerpiece of a Melo trade since we have no use for him if we do get Melo.

I don't think he's intentionally tanking, but I think the Melo stuff is in head right now.

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10/29/2010  11:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2010  11:19 PM
gallo's wrist is hurting, imho. hahn suggested the same thing at the half on 1050am...hard to judge him right now.
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10/29/2010  11:28 PM
K22 wrote:Someone please tell Wilson that he doesn't have the range to be shooting 7 threes. Cut the threes and he's 8-13 from the field.

couple of those were the late 4th quarter desperation types. But yeah, he should cut those down unless he is completely wide open or at end of clock and has to shoot.

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