It should be an interesting weekend at the church picnic

sidsanders wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
fair enough. but if amar'e signed this contract with the bulls, you know you'd be one of the first to say it was another big chip off the table for the knicks and a clear sign lebron was going to the bulls.

amar'e has been in contact with lebron about the free agency process. there's a very real chance we are back in the lebron race in a major way.

did something happen between early am and a bit ago cuz it seemed like things were "ok"?? just curios as to why you said that...

if they get amar'e, i just think it's a major major sign that the knicks are players in the bron sweepstakes.

before that, i thought they were in serious danger of being shut out.

isola is acting like it might be either extremely close or a done deal:

FisolaNYDN
Two biggest contracts in Knicks history belong to Allan Houston and Amar'e. Also something else in common: micro-fracture knee surgery

For Isola to compare it with Allan Houston is absolutely ridiculous. Amare had his surgery in his early 20s and has bounced back with 4 big years. Allan Houston never recovered from micro.

On the other hand, the surgery is not something to simply gloss over, either. Microfracture, for lack of a better word, is essentially a bandaid. The procedure through the drilling tries as much as it can to help create a reliable cartilage in the knee, but its still not as strong or durable as your natural cartilage. It becomes more prone to wearing down over time. Amare is not past his knee problems and at some point in his life, that knee is going to be addressed again. Lets just hope he can give us at least 4 good years here

crzymdups wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
fair enough. but if amar'e signed this contract with the bulls, you know you'd be one of the first to say it was another big chip off the table for the knicks and a clear sign lebron was going to the bulls.

amar'e has been in contact with lebron about the free agency process. there's a very real chance we are back in the lebron race in a major way.

did something happen between early am and a bit ago cuz it seemed like things were "ok"?? just curios as to why you said that...

if they get amar'e, i just think it's a major major sign that the knicks are players in the bron sweepstakes.

before that, i thought they were in serious danger of being shut out.

isola is acting like it might be either extremely close or a done deal:

FisolaNYDN
Two biggest contracts in Knicks history belong to Allan Houston and Amar'e. Also something else in common: micro-fracture knee surgery

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Im not saying Amare isn't a nice piece but I see it as more of other teams werent high on giving him a max guaranteed deal with those suspect knees.

Nets have Favors and could settle for Lee just to continue to spite the Knicks
Bulls are rumored to prefer Bosh or Boozer(Non Max player)
Heat are rumored to prefer Bosh or Boozer(Non Max player)

So who else was really going to offer Amare the max? Amare is trying to get paid and I dont blame him or Joe Johnson for taking the money.

fair enough. but if amar'e signed this contract with the bulls, you know you'd be one of the first to say it was another big chip off the table for the knicks and a clear sign lebron was going to the bulls.

amar'e has been in contact with lebron about the free agency process. there's a very real chance we are back in the lebron race in a major way.

The Bulls have different pieces. A front court of Noah(C) and Amare(PF) sounds better than a front court of Gallo(PF) and Amare(C). Amare plays little to no defense and is undersized at C but can put up points in a hurry.

Now if Walsh trades for a real center then my opinion will change.

Yes, Noah and Amare would be quite a pairing. Too bad Chicago never seemed to step to the plate in the Amar'e bidding. Their loss.

I actually think if the Bulls had ONLY signed Amar'e it would have been an absolute coup for them. DRose to Amare with Noah and Deng holding it down defensively? UnstoppaBULL.

Moonangie wrote:

KnicksSince88 wrote:The micrfracture surgery is both being overplayed and underplayed at the same time.

For Isola to compare it with Allan Houston is absolutely ridiculous. Amare had his surgery in his early 20s and has bounced back with 4 big years. Allan Houston never recovered from micro.

On the other hand, the surgery is not something to simply gloss over, either. Microfracture, for lack of a better word, is essentially a bandaid. The procedure through the drilling tries as much as it can to help create a reliable cartilage in the knee, but its still not as strong or durable as your natural cartilage. It becomes more prone to wearing down over time. Amare is not past his knee problems and at some point in his life, that knee is going to be addressed again. Lets just hope he can give us at least 4 good years here

I wouldn't be surprised to see new surgeries, new material, new procedures, and new rehab in place within four years. The future in human bio-engineering (especially for joints involved in athletics) should be pretty outstanding. Signing Amare might not be our first choice if it didn't reflect directly on its positioning for us in the Lebron signing.

It's key (not a guarantee) to keeping us in it.

agree with all this.

fishmike wrote:a couple difference between Amare and Houston. Amare is younger, and he's back 4 years now and has his explosiveness back. When your healthy for 4 years and 27 years old whats the issue?

Writers who want to compare it with Houston are lost, I agree. But hes still not totally out of the woods just because hes produced for 4 years now. Microfracture is essentially a "time-buyer", and Amare already has 4 years of bought time on that knee. Hopefully he can get a few more before it must be addressed again, but it will be addressed again at some point, because micro-fracture with its limitations right now can only give you a lesser imitation of cartilage in the knee which is less strong and durable than the natural hyaline cartilage found in a normal knee. This weaker imitation cartilage is not going to hold up for the rest of Amare's life without him needing another procedure at some point

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Im not saying Amare isn't a nice piece but I see it as more of other teams werent high on giving him a max guaranteed deal with those suspect knees.

Nets have Favors and could settle for Lee just to continue to spite the Knicks
Bulls are rumored to prefer Bosh or Boozer(Non Max player)
Heat are rumored to prefer Bosh or Boozer(Non Max player)

So who else was really going to offer Amare the max? Amare is trying to get paid and I dont blame him or Joe Johnson for taking the money.

fair enough. but if amar'e signed this contract with the bulls, you know you'd be one of the first to say it was another big chip off the table for the knicks and a clear sign lebron was going to the bulls.

amar'e has been in contact with lebron about the free agency process. there's a very real chance we are back in the lebron race in a major way.

The Bulls have different pieces. A front court of Noah(C) and Amare(PF) sounds better than a front court of Gallo(PF) and Amare(C). Amare plays little to no defense and is undersized at C but can put up points in a hurry.

Now if Walsh trades for a real center then my opinion will change.

Yes, Noah and Amare would be quite a pairing. Too bad Chicago never seemed to step to the plate in the Amar'e bidding. Their loss.

I actually think if the Bulls had ONLY signed Amar'e it would have been an absolute coup for them. DRose to Amare with Noah and Deng holding it down defensively? UnstoppaBULL.

Chicago doesn't have the space currently to sign 2 max deals. So this is why Boozer or Lee is more appealing to them, assuming they take less than the max.

Andrew wrote:

KnicksSince88 wrote:This weaker imitation cartilage is not going to hold up for the rest of Amare's life...

As long as it holds up until we sign Lebron I'm ok.

This is my thought. I'm not a big Amar'e guy but if it means LBJ signs then all good. I know we will have to worry about those knees down the road. Suns not willing to go pass 4 yrs. should be all the notice the Knicks need to know that they have to manage those knees like they did with Patrick. We should look for a good serviceable backup to give him significant breathers. PEJ would be a decent one.