BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:holy fak, John Wall was all alone tonight... fuggin' teammates failed to show up.

Do you think that if Kentucky had Jimmer Fredette playing PG instead of Wall that they wouldve won?

See it's all relative with fit but I think what fredette brings to the table wouldve been a better fit for Kentucky at PG in the big games. John Wall is not a reliable shooter and there is no way a team could bring a hard double at mid court the way K State could against BYU because all of their other athletes were superior. And it's funny because Fredette in 2-3 minutes could change that games momentum but Wall could not. Obviously Wall's top end physical talent trumps Fredette but with the right fit where he is playing with 4 good guys where you cant put extra pressure on him--you have to guard to 26 feet and that spreads the floor. While Wall can kill you on the break and he should even be better in the nBA with an open style of play--guys in the halfcourt are going to be able to exploit his jumpshot by sagging off and reducing space.

if Kentucky had a shooter like Fredette to play ALONGSIDE Wall i think they're in the Final Four... but Wall has played some tough defense & was making all the drives into the lane off his penetration & ball handling that was scoring big baskets for Kentucky all tournament long... was also making some sweet dishes into Cousins & Patterson down low to net them easy buckets... last night he was all alone out there, everyone else was afraid to shoot the ball & when they did they were clanking them off iron for giant sized bricks... Cousins wasn't even on the court for the final several minutes & Bledsoe was a complete non factor... Wall is going to be a star in the NBA... i have no idea what Fredette is going to be... if u remember Fredette got completely shut down & destroyed by Jacob Pullen & when his J wasn't falling he wasn't doing much of anything else out there on the floor.

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:holy fak, John Wall was all alone tonight... fuggin' teammates failed to show up.

Do you think that if Kentucky had Jimmer Fredette playing PG instead of Wall that they wouldve won?

See it's all relative with fit but I think what fredette brings to the table wouldve been a better fit for Kentucky at PG in the big games. John Wall is not a reliable shooter and there is no way a team could bring a hard double at mid court the way K State could against BYU because all of their other athletes were superior. And it's funny because Fredette in 2-3 minutes could change that games momentum but Wall could not. Obviously Wall's top end physical talent trumps Fredette but with the right fit where he is playing with 4 good guys where you cant put extra pressure on him--you have to guard to 26 feet and that spreads the floor. While Wall can kill you on the break and he should even be better in the nBA with an open style of play--guys in the halfcourt are going to be able to exploit his jumpshot by sagging off and reducing space.

if Kentucky had a shooter like Fredette to play ALONGSIDE Wall i think they're in the Final Four... but Wall has played some tough defense & was making all the drives into the lane off his penetration & ball handling that was scoring big baskets for Kentucky all tournament long... was also making some sweet dishes into Cousins & Patterson down low to net them easy buckets... last night he was all alone out there, everyone else was afraid to shoot the ball & when they did they were clanking them off iron for giant sized bricks... Cousins wasn't even on the court for the final several minutes & Bledsoe was a complete non factor... Wall is going to be a star in the NBA... i have no idea what Fredette is going to be... if u remember Fredette got completely shut down & destroyed by Jacob Pullen & when his J wasn't falling he wasn't doing much of anything else out there on the floor.

Fredette was double-teamed at half-court all game. It's the same guy who put up 49-9-8 on Nic wise.
You are in trouble if every match up on the court favors one team athletically. If you remember Steph Curry had some absolute horrible games in his junior year and looked outmatched in a few.

TMS wrote:i still don't know what you're trying to sell me on... do i think Fredette will be a better NBA player than John Wall? no, i don't... not because i know what Fredette's going to be, but because what i think John Wall will become... these are 2 completely different style players here... shooting is 1 aspect of the game that you can definitely improve upon with repetition & practice... Rajon Rondo has become 1 of the best PG's in the game & he still can't shoot the ball... i think John Wall has the potential to be better than Rondo... u can't teach the type of athletic ability & raw talent that he's got.

We arent getting John Wall but we do have a chance to get fredette. If I had to bet on it--I think MDA would love Fredette.

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If you need to know how valuable a true active 7 footer is just watch a replay of this Duke game. Just the presence alters the game. Id like to have three guy 7+ 260 but were not playing that style.

stop being obtuse BRIGGS /sarcasm

id pass on zoubs though... singler might be interesting though, if he comes out.

Not, not Bill Walton but Sven Nater!

Nalod wrote:Great game!!!!!!

Butler is playing great!

sht:(

Man Butler deserved to win that!!! Also he got fouled on the rebound by Zoubek!!! Missed two shots by hairs.