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nixluva
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2/23/2010  12:14 PM
Guys are missing the point with Sergio! The guy can be the kind of PG we need but can we at least give him and his teammates some time together? He's young and never really got a shot to play so this is gonna be his 1st re shot with no one in his way. I think he will develop into the kind of PG we need if we stick with him. I still like what I see and I stick by my comments about him BECOMING a Nash lite kind of PG. How about his teammates doing their part and making shots and taking them instead of being hesitant.

Sergio has all the tools but he hasn't even had a chance to have real practice time or be taught by MDA yet and he still looks better suited to this style than our other guards.

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2/23/2010  12:20 PM
nixluva wrote:Guys are missing the point with Sergio! The guy can be the kind of PG we need but can we at least give him and his teammates some time together? He's young and never really got a shot to play so this is gonna be his 1st re shot with no one in his way. I think he will develop into the kind of PG we need if we stick with him. I still like what I see and I stick by my comments about him BECOMING a Nash lite kind of PG. How about his teammates doing their part and making shots and taking them instead of being hesitant.

Sergio has all the tools but he hasn't even had a chance to have real practice time or be taught by MDA yet and he still looks better suited to this style than our other guards.

I think its almost unanimous around here that Sergio be given every opportunity to develop for the remainder of the season. Nobody is trying to see Duhon anywhere near the court.

But I think many around here, including myself, are aware that Sergio has been consistently underwhelming his whole career. It comes to a point where a player is who he is. To think that Sergio is going to develop into this All-Star level point guard is a bit unrealistic. Expectations are tempered with him and for good reason.

Yeah, he can throw a few passes out his ass, and he has great anticipation when it comes to steals, but other than that I havent seen much from him throughout his whole time in the league.

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2/23/2010  12:33 PM
Well I'd like to know if that's from a lack of opportunity or if he's just not able to put it all together! I don't believe he just can't develop into a starter based on his skills and BB IQ. He's never been said to lack the skill or mental capacity to play this game. I see intelligence in how he plays and as I said with this team he hasn't even had any practice time. He's just been tossed out their with a bunch of strangers and I feel he handled it well.
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2/23/2010  12:37 PM
nixluva wrote:Well I'd like to know if that's from a lack of opportunity or if he's just not able to put it all together!

Rodriguez has had ample opportunity in his career thus far. He was competing with Steve Blake and Beno Udrih, who are not exactly Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

In both Portland and Sacramento, the coaches preferred to play guys who are not point guards as point guards instead of giving Rodriguez time.

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2/23/2010  12:42 PM
TMS wrote:Knicks record is 9 by Q Rich... i heard Breen say it during the telecast.

dude, Sergio did not have a good game tonight... let's lay it out like it is... & Eddie House being the focus of the offense completely stalled the offense... no one was moving around doing anything, it was Eddie catching & shooting all night... WTF kinda game plan is that by MDA?

It was not QRICH, it was Michael "Sugar" Ray Richardson who had 9 steals in a game for the Knicks.

As for SRod, he played well and set up many shots, the team just did not make any. He is light years ahead of Duhon in speed, vision, creativity and getting to the rim.


If he can develop his outside shot, he will be a very good PG. Oh and he does get a little too fast sometimes...but that will change with experience.

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2/23/2010  4:01 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
TMS wrote:Knicks record is 9 by Q Rich... i heard Breen say it during the telecast.

dude, Sergio did not have a good game tonight... let's lay it out like it is... & Eddie House being the focus of the offense completely stalled the offense... no one was moving around doing anything, it was Eddie catching & shooting all night... WTF kinda game plan is that by MDA?

It was not QRICH, it was Michael "Sugar" Ray Richardson who had 9 steals in a game for the Knicks.

As for SRod, he played well and set up many shots, the team just did not make any. He is light years ahead of Duhon in speed, vision, creativity and getting to the rim.


If he can develop his outside shot, he will be a very good PG. Oh and he does get a little too fast sometimes...but that will change with experience.

sorry, my mistake on the steals record... thought i heard him say Q Rich... was probably too enthralled watching Sergio lead this team last night.

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2/23/2010  4:03 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
TMS wrote:Knicks record is 9 by Q Rich... i heard Breen say it during the telecast.

dude, Sergio did not have a good game tonight... let's lay it out like it is... & Eddie House being the focus of the offense completely stalled the offense... no one was moving around doing anything, it was Eddie catching & shooting all night... WTF kinda game plan is that by MDA?

It was not QRICH, it was Michael "Sugar" Ray Richardson who had 9 steals in a game for the Knicks.

As for SRod, he played well and set up many shots, the team just did not make any. He is light years ahead of Duhon in speed, vision, creativity and getting to the rim.


If he can develop his outside shot, he will be a very good PG. Oh and he does get a little too fast sometimes...but that will change with experience.

quoted for truth.

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2/23/2010  5:01 PM
I was so amped for last night's game, only to become disgusted by the end of it. Sergio was more active than Duhon on defense, but his playmaking (or lack thereof) left me disgusted. He dribbled around a lot and tended to make ****ty passes trying to either force the pick and roll or get himself out of the corner he dribbled into. I was not pleased with the team overall and think we have regressed to the old knicks offense - standing around while one player goes one-on-one. This maybe a chemistry issue, but i don't think s-rod showed me anything outstanding last night besides the quick hands on defense. Our team needs a general and this guy ain't it...
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2/23/2010  5:43 PM
jusnice wrote: Our team needs a general and this guy ain't it...

Our team needs a lot of things. Period!
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2/24/2010  3:08 AM
MDA is gonna really be able to get a lot out of Sergio once he gets time to work with this kid. I'm tellin you he's got all the tools to be a really good PG in this league. You can see that if he hits his shots he's able to provide us with just about everything we need from the PG spot.

He's active on both ends and I love that he attacks the basket. He also gets his hands on a lot of passes! If he can just learn to move his feet laterally on D he'd be solid on D. Imagine what Sergio is gonna look like in this offense with time, work this off season and a full training camp!

and Oh yeah we need a center!

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2/24/2010  7:13 AM
he looked much better last night w/his shooting... if he can play that way on a consistent basis we might just have something.
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2/24/2010  7:24 AM
Rodriguez has had ample opportunity in his career thus far. He was competing with Steve Blake and Beno Udrih, who are not exactly Chris Paul and Deron Williams.
In both Portland and Sacramento, the coaches preferred to play guys who are not point guards as point guards instead of giving Rodriguez time.

You mean the same Steve Blake that started over Andre Miller, their primary FA signing, for the first 25-30 games of Portland's season? Just because a player hasn't received playing time or given much of an opportunity should not label him as a bust. We, of all fans, should know that. Who knows what goes through a coach's mind when they don't give a young player the opportunity, but more often than not, it has to do with a coach's belief that the player does not fit his system, and not simply adjusting the system for the player. Rarely does it have to actually do with the player's skill/value.

Sergio may prove to be the real pickup of the trade, but for now, I'll temper my expectations. Getting a good backup point can be just as valuable for us.

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2/24/2010  8:15 AM
nixluva wrote:MDA is gonna really be able to get a lot out of Sergio once he gets time to work with this kid. I'm tellin you he's got all the tools to be a really good PG in this league. You can see that if he hits his shots he's able to provide us with just about everything we need from the PG spot.

He's active on both ends and I love that he attacks the basket. He also gets his hands on a lot of passes! If he can just learn to move his feet laterally on D he'd be solid on D. Imagine what Sergio is gonna look like in this offense with time, work this off season and a full training camp!

and Oh yeah we need a center!

I have definitely seen the "imagine if he has a full training camp" statement.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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2/24/2010  12:01 PM
It is impressive to me that he has handled this fairly well and despite the lack of any real practice with this team he's hitting guys all over the place. Don't tell that he didn't show the deft passing skills we were talking about in this game. He did something I've been dying for Duhon to do, throw that lead pass up court to a player running ahead. One time on that long alleyoop to Walker!

He has lapses on D that have to be fixed but I like his overall energy and quick hands he will have a lot of steals as a starter.

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2/24/2010  12:52 PM
i think Sergio is the point guard we need for this offense. for $2.8M next season... to me he's a total bargain. obviously, you make that call after the next 26 games and see how it goes... but i really like him and he seems to get this system and looks great so far.
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2/24/2010  1:42 PM
I'm no expert, but I thin Sergio has promise, and he's one of the more interesting players to watch during games. I think with some coaching and more maturity he could be pretty good.
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2/24/2010  1:47 PM
Sergio is definitely the pg we need for this team next year. Huge upgrade over Duhon.
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2/24/2010  3:11 PM
Hey now that's what I wanted to hear A bit of optimism for Sergio! I guess i'm not blind after all, tho apparently he's hardly noticeable out there and you can't see any real passing skills I feel that if he looks like this with no practice or real work on his game with MDA then he can only get better from here. I like just about everything about him. Good size, tho he's more of a wiry guy than a strong guard. He's very active and all over the floor. One thing you can say for him is that he's not scared or overwhelmed by the spotlight. He seems to love being in this spot.
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2/24/2010  3:35 PM
to me the #1 reason to watch for the rest of the season is to see how sergio plays as a starter. we may have found the point guard for this system - if so, he is a major piece and extremely affordable.
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2/24/2010  4:30 PM
scoshin wrote:Just because a player hasn't received playing time or given much of an opportunity should not label him as a bust. We, of all fans, should know that.

you would think people would remain patient on young kids, but it seems to only hold true for the new guys we bring in on trades & usually the exact opposite when it comes to the kids we draft... everyone gets overly stoked over new blood but when it comes to draft picks we usually look for any reason to downgrade the picks... i just don't get that at all.

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