crzymdups wrote:

JayNYC wrote:I hope that this trade includes Hill, Hughes, and Jeffries as opposed to Al Harrington for TMac, Dorsey and Cook. If it does, then maybe we can flip Harrington to Chicago for Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James.

agree very much on this one. if tyrus is out there to take a look at and re-sign on the cheap, i'd LOVE to take a flier on him.

The thing is... the Tyrus Thomas deal IMO offsets the Hill trade. Moreover, his eventual success in D'Antoni's system could allow for a David Lee resigning to not be as "pressing". If all works well, assuming TMac is able to regain sn ALLSTAR level of play.. dare I say elite??? (NYK Resigns him); Tyrus Thomas has a decent level of production at the PF position.. We should target Chris Bosh next!!! *(Aside from The Chosen One or DWade)

2011 PG CENTRAL!!!

Lee
Thomas
Gallinari/Chandler
McGrady
Duhon

djsunyc wrote:with the talks of hill possibly being moved...it's time to start downtalking him and his potential...hindsight rationalization...

Yeah I bet no one will be watching his box scores from the other team and declaring him as some future great prospect.

djsunyc wrote:with the talks of hill possibly being moved...it's time to start downtalking him and his potential...hindsight rationalization...

Who the hell is Jordan Hill going to play in front of in Houston? Landry or Scola? Can he even beat out Chuck Hayes or David Anderson?

Inquiring minds don't want to know.

oohah

TMS wrote:
don't worry broham, i'll be watching him & letting everyone know about it the second he puts up a good statline.

BRIGGSMS

oohah

oohah wrote:

djsunyc wrote:with the talks of hill possibly being moved...it's time to start downtalking him and his potential...hindsight rationalization...

Who the hell is Jordan Hill going to play in front of in Houston? Landry or Scola? Can he even beat out Chuck Hayes or David Anderson?

Inquiring minds don't want to know.

oohah

lol... dude, Chuck Hayes & David Anderson are freakin' scrubs who're only seeing minutes cuz Yao is out for the season & they need someone who's taller than 6'8" to play the C position in the Western Conference... even then, half the time it's Scola & Landry as their frontcourt... Scola's expiring after this season & he's going to want a hefty pay raise... they could be looking to cut costs & acquire a promising young PF/C like Hill to play alongside Landry next season... makes perfect sense for them to be interested in Jordan Hill... just cuz you think the guy's a scrub cuz you haven't seen him play doesn't mean other people share the same viewpoint

TMS wrote:
lol... dude, Chuck Hayes & David Anderson are freakin' scrubs who're only seeing minutes cuz Yao is out for the season & they need someone who's taller than 6'8" to play the C position in the Western Conference... even then, half the time it's Scola & Landry as their frontcourt... Scola's expiring after this season & he's going to want a hefty pay raise... they could be looking to cut costs & acquire a promising young PF/C like Hill to play alongside Landry next season... makes perfect sense for them to be interested in Jordan Hill... just cuz you think the guy's a scrub cuz you haven't seen him play doesn't mean other people share the same viewpoint

I understand that you have staked out your ground with backing Hill and feel the need to attack anyone who says he might not be great, but Chuck Hayes is in no way a scrub. He's one of the best defensive power forwards in the game and is an excellent rebounder. David Anderson has good size and a decent skill level, he'smore polished player than Hill, but he is old at 29 years. Whether or not Hill can beat out Hayes or Anderson, he is still not beating out Landry or Scola. Sorry.

oohah

oohah

crzymdups wrote:well. hayes is still pretty damn good. and they like andersen because he's a shooter.

rick adelman is a great coach though. and morey is a great GM. if they like Hill, they probably think he can be a player. he's looked good here. i wish d'antoni would use him more.

I agree he probably is not beating out Hayes either.

Adelman would probably bring the best out of Hill just the way he does with pretty much every player.

Shoot, following the New York luck line of thinking, maybe Hill will walk into Houston and start busting ass when he can't even get off the bench here.

oohah

TMS wrote:

JayNYC wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

The Knicks and Rockets have designed the framework of a deal that would unload New York’s Jared Jeffries(notes), Jordan Hill(notes) and either Al Harrington(notes) or Larry Hughes(notes) for McGrady, Joey Dorsey(notes) and Brian Cook(notes).

As talks stood on Monday, the price of dumping the burdensome contract of Jeffries – who is owed $6.9 million next season – comes with the Knicks and Rockets exchanging 2011 first-round picks and the Knicks’ 2012 first-round choice going to Houston. New York also might include a 2010 second-round pick.

The Utah Jazz own the Knicks’ first-round pick in 2010.

The completion of the deal isn’t imminent, but sources involved in the discussions are increasingly confident that after months of back and forth, which intensified over All-Star weekend, an agreement is within reach. TNT’s David Aldridge first reported that talks between the teams had picked up.

McGrady, sources said, is excited about the possibility of joining the Knicks.

All I can say is WOWwwww.. I read this as well. At first thought.. swapping 1st rounders in 2011 doesnt seem so bad. Giving away a second pick in 2012??? Thats the question mark? All at the sake of trading Jeffries contract eh? THE ONLY WAY THIS TURNS OUT TO BE FAVORABLE FOR NYK IS: If TMac can resurrect his career avg 20ppg.. and we somehow are able to sign TWO MAX FREE AGENTS IN 2010.

that's almost as bad as the Eddy Curry trade... if we lose out on a bigname FA this summer than exchanging picks in 2011 could prove to be another death blow to our franchise... no way should they make this deal, i don't care if we can unload Fishlips AND Curry in the process.

for real.. whatever happened to getting one good FA this year and then improving the team, letting the kids improve and then when fishlips and curry drop off the books next year, go after that crop of FA's.. I mean lets stop with trading our future picks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JohnWallace44 wrote:

JayNYC wrote:

WOODMANnYk wrote:If this trade does go down and Mcgrady does well for the remaining yr, I can see him signing for the mid - level exception and knicks getting themselves Lebron and Bosh.

You would have Mcgrady, Bosh and Lebron in your starting lineup then fill in the rest: pg/pf position.

Mid Level??? wishful thinking... TMac would get a way bigger contract than that, close to; if not MAX... would he be worth it???, remains to be seen!

That's a loony-bin post there. He's not getting anywhere near the Max. He's going to be treated like Grant Hill because that's essentially what he is. If he gets the Mid-level, that's a nice job by his agent.

hahaha, as looney as you may think it would be (and trust me I agree); However, you forget the team in which you currently root for has a history for overpaying/ and outbidding themselves and other teams in the process. Rest assured, if TMAC DOES WELL.. HE WILL GET CLOSE TO MAX MONEY. Think about it, Jared Jeffries got the mid level.. Do you think TMac's agent won't get more cash? There are two things that could prevent TMac from getting a good chunk of cash in the off season and they are: David Stern and Owners vs The Players Union (The Dispute on Financial Issues) and TMAC HIMSELF (Not performing)

JayNYC wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

JayNYC wrote:

WOODMANnYk wrote:If this trade does go down and Mcgrady does well for the remaining yr, I can see him signing for the mid - level exception and knicks getting themselves Lebron and Bosh.

You would have Mcgrady, Bosh and Lebron in your starting lineup then fill in the rest: pg/pf position.

Mid Level??? wishful thinking... TMac would get a way bigger contract than that, close to; if not MAX... would he be worth it???, remains to be seen!

That's a loony-bin post there. He's not getting anywhere near the Max. He's going to be treated like Grant Hill because that's essentially what he is. If he gets the Mid-level, that's a nice job by his agent.

hahaha, as looney as you may think it would be (and trust me I agree); However, you forget the team in which you currently root for has a history for overpaying/ and outbidding themselves and other teams in the process. Rest assured, if TMAC DOES WELL.. HE WILL GET CLOSE TO MAX MONEY. Think about it, Jared Jeffries got the mid level.. Do you think TMac's agent won't get more cash? There are two things that could prevent TMac from getting a good chunk of cash in the off season and they are: David Stern and Owners vs The Players Union (The Dispute on Financial Issues) and TMAC HIMSELF (Not performing)

You do know that max for a guy like McGrady who has been in the League for more than a decade is like 20 million right? If he plays superb the max he will get is around 10 million per considering his injury history.