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JrZyHuStLa
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10/13/2009  9:36 PM
Larry Hughes is the new Quentin Richardson.
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10/13/2009  9:39 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
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Posted by nyk4ever:

milicic plays the high-post very well. he has very good court vision.

I'd like to see Nate and Darko in the starting lineup.

My top lineup:

Nate
Chandler
Harrington
Lee
Darko

Douglas
Jeffries
Gallo
Duhon

I like your idea, but to me, Nate is better as a sparkplug off the bench, that goes for both him and pretty toney album.

Nate can play full speed all 48 mins. why use him as a spark plug off the bench when you can have it all game. My focus is on getting players that will drive the ball, draw fouls, can pass and might play defense. Toney is my energizer bunny off the bench. Jeffries can pretty much spell anyone on the court. Gallo needs to get his legs before he gets serious burn. But he is smart and I want him in the rotation.
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10/13/2009  9:39 PM
if the knicks could trade coaches with philly that would be a good thing
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10/13/2009  9:39 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by PresIke:

no disrespect, but some of us are doing things that represent the worst stereotype of new york sports fans...

the hateration is silly...

breen and clyde keep talking about how we're playing good defense, we're winning, etc. but no...

let's find the exact thing to harp on, and then keep harping on it.

sheesh

[Edited by - PresIke on 10-13-2009 9:13 PM]

No. I'm telling it like it is. Breen and Clyde get paid by MSG. I don't get paid to watch games. My view is more objective.

Why are YOU are more objective, even though you've openly stated you claim Chandler is your new whipping boy after Lee, who you still deride constantly.

Simply because one looks to be constantly negative does not necessarily imply objectivity.

Breen has criticized the Knicks ALL OF THE TIME for bad defense, as has Clyde.

anyway, I know you won't change your mind, but at least for folks reading this...go watch the game and tell me if the Knicks have not played better defense than we have before.

If you are honest with yourself, and not inclined to finding a way to be negative about the team, you know that we have, and some guys have shown things, while others have raised concerns.

Objective means to be balanced and fair, as much as possible.

I admit Chandler hasn't been what I've hoped, and we have problems in several areas, especially outside shooting, but we are competing in a game that is competitive, even if pre-season. You can see that. We are not a good team, i am under no illusions, but we have some things, and for a team like us it should be about development in many areas.

As a team, individual players, defensive intensity, winning attitude, etc.

I see that tonight, which contrasts to much of what folks have stated before.

Is that going to be consistent?

perhaps not, but to not look at things holistically is to ignore important facts and details that represent a genuine interest in objectivity.




[Edited by - PresIke on 10-13-2009 9:25 PM]

How have I been constantly negative? I've been defending Gallinari and Walsh/D'Antoni here the entire time against half the forum. I call things the way I see it, that's all. I harped on Lee and still do because he deserves it. His defense is terrible. Now Chandler will feel that until he starts playing like an NBA player and not Tim Thomas-lite.

I don't care about what you're talking about. What am I going to praise? Good defense? Okay, good. They're playing BETTER defense. So it's no longer putrid. For now, at least. But guess what? Chucking 35 3's with the game still early in the 4th is pathetic and kills your team. You can play shut down D but if you can't play as a team on the other end of the court - work the ball around and drive it into the lane, etc. - then that is all for naught. So yes, good for them playing D. Now they can't do both things right at the same time. Chucking shots isn't an offense. This falls a bit on D'Antoni too. Where is his system? Is this it? Have Nate, Al and the crew throw up 3's every game and hope they go in? This doesn't get me excited and isn't worthy of praise from me.

So yes, I am objective. Very objective. i am just very blunt on my views. Maybe even a little over the top. But I don't pull any punches. If I see crap, I call crap. If I see great play, I call great play. And it can be from Lee or Chandler or anyone else. If they play well, they get praise. If they don't, then well, you know what happens.
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10/13/2009  9:39 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Larry Hughes is the new Quentin Richardson.

good analogy. Now he just has to get fat.
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10/13/2009  9:40 PM
Posted by coolbeans:

if the knicks could trade coaches with philly that would be a good thing

I disagree.
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10/13/2009  9:41 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by nyk4ever:

milicic plays the high-post very well. he has very good court vision.

I'd like to see Nate and Darko in the starting lineup.

My top lineup:

Nate
Chandler
Harrington
Lee
Darko

Douglas
Jeffries
Gallo
Duhon

I like your idea, but to me, Nate is better as a sparkplug off the bench, that goes for both him and pretty toney album.

Nate can play full speed all 48 mins. why use him as a spark plug off the bench when you can have it all game. My focus is on getting players that will drive the ball, draw fouls, can pass and might play defense. Toney is my energizer bunny off the bench. Jeffries can pretty much spell anyone on the court. Gallo needs to get his legs before he gets serious burn. But he is smart and I want him in the rotation.

having jeffries and darko on the floor at the same time is getting results on the defensive end. the two are just wasted on the offensive end. d'toni offensive playbook is going to get lit-up by legit three point teams. its going to be embarrassing. he really needs to have an offensive scheme that fits the players he has.
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10/13/2009  9:43 PM
holy crap! you steal the ball and beat the d just to take a long shot. take it to the basket foooooooo!
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10/13/2009  9:45 PM
It's just preseason and this team has already given up, don't care, don't try. It's sad really. And to think this is a career year for many and they STILL don't care or play hard!

We will be lucky to win 30 games this year fellas.
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10/13/2009  9:45 PM
Lee's defense makes me sick. I am not looking forward to watching it all year long from our supposed 'best' player. Ugh.
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10/13/2009  9:48 PM
Nate is a ****ing idiot. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
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10/13/2009  9:48 PM
lol nate just wouldnt stfu
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10/13/2009  9:49 PM
If Nate did indeed yell becuase he missed his shot and was not yelling at the ref, then it's not surprising the ref would think he's yelling at him. Nate gets no benefit of the doubt becuase he hasn't shut the **** up all game.
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10/13/2009  9:49 PM
BS on Nate. All he did was yell because he missed his shot and these useless POS's T him up? Damn....the NBA needs to settle with it's Pro Refs. Simple as that. Settle. Or this product is finished. We can't go through with these guys.
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10/13/2009  9:49 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Nate is a ****ing idiot. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

This is nothing new. He's a clown in the form of blobman on UK. He doesn't deserve any respect.
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10/13/2009  9:50 PM
7-38 FG3

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10/13/2009  9:51 PM
Make that

7-40 FG3

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10/13/2009  9:52 PM
Nate has stupid looking shoes.
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10/13/2009  9:52 PM
Knicks defense looks twice as good, Shot selection twice as bad
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10/13/2009  9:54 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

BS on Nate. All he did was yell because he missed his shot and these useless POS's T him up? Damn....the NBA needs to settle with it's Pro Refs. Simple as that. Settle. Or this product is finished. We can't go through with these guys.

I'm not tryin to rag on you, but it got to point where anything Nate said to the ref was going to get him T'd up because all he done all game is bitch and moan about EVERY SINGLE call.

Also, he doesn't do it in a way like Tim Duncan or someone else does, he argues with them. It's only human to get tired of hearing it. If Nate wants to bitch about all his calls, he has to choose a different tactic in doing so.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 10-13-2009 9:55 PM]
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