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7/8/2009  12:04 PM
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)

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7/8/2009  12:12 PM
Walsh must be NY's biggest supplier of E pills. In the past 2 days people have come to the conclusion that Blake and Outlaw for Lee is a steal for NY and free agents are going to be beating down the Knicks door because of the presence of 37 yr old Grant Hill.

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7/8/2009  12:13 PM
Posted by McK1:

Walsh must be NY's biggest supplier of E pills. In the past 2 days people have come to the conclusion that Blake and Outlaw for Lee is a steal for NY and free agents are going to be beating down the Knicks door because of the presence of 37 yr old Grant Hill.
Taking the "argument by exaggeration" approach now?
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7/8/2009  12:19 PM
Posted by McK1:

Walsh must be NY's biggest supplier of E pills. In the past 2 days people have come to the conclusion that Blake and Outlaw for Lee is a steal for NY and free agents are going to be beating down the Knicks door because of the presence of 37 yr old Grant Hill.

I don't think anyone here is advocating Blake and Outlaw for DLee.

And most have said that the presence of Hill helps steady and develop guys like Gallinari, Chandler and maybe even Nate. Maybe even takes some pressure off Duhon.
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7/8/2009  12:20 PM
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

Or we could trade for more and have sf's as our backups too.
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7/8/2009  12:23 PM
Is there really any truth to the Blake/Outlaw for Lee rumor? The only place the story broke was in Berman's article.
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7/8/2009  12:29 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Is there really any truth to the Blake/Outlaw for Lee rumor? The only place the story broke was in Berman's article.

Berman? So it must be true
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7/8/2009  12:29 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Is there really any truth to the Blake/Outlaw for Lee rumor? The only place the story broke was in Berman's article.

i've seen it mentioned that lee's agent is trying to get portland to agree to a sign and trade deal for dlee first. then he'd have to take it back to walsh to get it to work. but so far portland is not interested because they have Aldridge and Oden.

i bet portland would be a lot more interested if something happens with greg oden - that something being he keeps being a bust.
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7/8/2009  12:30 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?



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7/8/2009  12:34 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

i didn't say that. i like mike. just saying his ideal basketball team is 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor.

though his system never got him by san antonio. i think a good offense always gets beat by a good defense in the finals. i think it's probably foolish to completely ignore the defensive side of the ball as he does.

also i think his philosophy clashes pretty severely with donnie's and i think we may have seen that in the draft the last few years.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 08-07-2009 12:35 PM]
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7/8/2009  12:44 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

i didn't say that. i like mike. just saying his ideal basketball team is 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor.

though his system never got him by san antonio. i think a good offense always gets beat by a good defense in the finals. i think it's probably foolish to completely ignore the defensive side of the ball as he does.

also i think his philosophy clashes pretty severely with donnie's and i think we may have seen that in the draft the last few years.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 08-07-2009 12:35 PM]
not taking a poke at you... its others that say that.

Lots of teams couldnt get past the Spurs.

I also dont think its fair to say they ignore defense, they just play a different type. The focus is steals, blocks, turnovers and jumpshots. Yes.. against an MDA you will get good loocks all night if your willing to shoot long jumpers. But long jumpers = long rebounds = easy fast break points and MDAs formula is given volume his points will add up faster.

I would never have been open to it in the past but the rules have changed.

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7/8/2009  12:49 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes
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7/8/2009  12:52 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes

Even still Tim Thomas only plays in the area between half court and the three point line
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7/8/2009  12:54 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes

Even still Tim Thomas only plays in the area between half court and the three point line

obviously you've never seen tim thomas play in a contract year

[Edited by - McK1 on 07-08-2009 12:54 PM]
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7/8/2009  12:57 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes
I wasnt.. but there you go. 4 guards and 4 small forwards for 20 playoff games.

Hey.. not saying thats what I want, only saying that the guys knows how to coach with what he's got, and what he had was a bunch of guards and SFs

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Anyone see that we offered Grant Hill his option of a one year $5 million offer, or a three year, $10 million offer?

RealGM had that today.

Could Walsh be punting until 2011?
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7/8/2009  1:01 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes
I wasnt.. but there you go. 4 guards and 4 small forwards for 20 playoff games.

Hey.. not saying thats what I want, only saying that the guys knows how to coach with what he's got, and what he had was a bunch of guards and SFs

and they struggled in each round, 7 games to beat Kobe, 7 games to beat the Clippers, then loss to the Mavs.

on a side note, TT and Diaw are considered 3' s because of their skill set not because of their size. Diaw still plays the 4 with Charlotte.

[Edited by - McK1 on 07-08-2009 1:05 PM]
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7/8/2009  1:10 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Panos:

Let's just play 5 SFs.

D'Antoni has said he would like a team of 5 6'9" guys who can shoot, pass and run the floor. (Don't think he mentioned defense)
hey.. he won 54 games and made it to the conference finals before losing to the Mavs 4-2.
He played 4 guards and 3 SFs

Rotation was
(guards) Nash, Barbosa, Eddie House and Raja Bell
(small forwards) Marion, Diaw, James Jones

sprinkle in a little Tim Thomas and Kurt Thomas but the top 7 played all the minutes and were 2 wins away from playing the Heat in the finals. I bet with Raja Bell guarding Wade the Suns do better than the Mavs did.

All that with No Amare.

But that "system" cant win games in the playoffs?

http://www.nba.com/suns/stats/2005/playoffs_stats.html

hope you were including Tim Thomas in that top 7 for play-off minutes
I wasnt.. but there you go. 4 guards and 4 small forwards for 20 playoff games.

Hey.. not saying thats what I want, only saying that the guys knows how to coach with what he's got, and what he had was a bunch of guards and SFs

and they struggled in each round, 7 games to beat Kobe, 7 games to beat the Clippers, then loss to the Mavs.

on a side note, TT and Diaw are considered 3' s because of their skill set not because of their size. Diaw still plays the 4 with Charlotte.

[Edited by - McK1 on 07-08-2009 1:05 PM]

Gallanari is taller and a better shooter than TT and i bet you Wilson is taller than Diaw, with a similar skill set. Diaw played center for D'Antoni but before that the Hawks played him as a guard.

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7/8/2009  1:10 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by CrushAlot:

Is there really any truth to the Blake/Outlaw for Lee rumor? The only place the story broke was in Berman's article.

Berman? So it must be true

considering the source I didn't buy it either. However there are a like 2 pages worth of posts with guys cross assuring themselves that Lee for Blake and Outlaw is a good deal (someone even used the word steal) for the Knicks
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