I like Knickerblogger's assessment of the potential deal.

He would take it, but does not consider it a "no brainer."

With a future #1?

No.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Taking back Walker's doesn't even make sense for giving up a pick. Since his contract is expiring how does that help you if you are still over the salary cap. It only helps the Grizzlies. So give them a first round pick and they give you Walker. How does that help the Knicks? No way this can be credible. If it is then Walsh should be immediately fired for stupidity.

if we take Walker instead of Jaric, it saves about $8 million on the 2010 cap number.

Posted by purple012870:

Basketball wise (contracts aside for a moment), I would really prefer Jaric (solid back-up player, good size, can shoot) to Walker (who is basically riding out his career Derrick Coleman style).

i'd rather have Jaric and a first round pick than Walker, definitely. I don't think Jaric will be that important to us, but if he can shoot, he might find a home in D'Antoni's heart.

Jaric would be a beast in this system but we would just be spinning our wheels bc we already have too many players. Jaric and Darko are going to demand 35-40 mins combined. So basically they are taking all Zach Randolphs minutes. That leaves no minutes for Chandler and Gallo. If we do this trade it would be better to get Walker instead of Jaric bc Walker is trash and will only benchwarmer( ala Malik Rose). The Knicks need no more than a solid 9 man rotation

Duhon
Crawford
Richardon
Chandler
Curry

Nate
Lee
Gallo
Milicic

Jaric is gonna be pissed with no minutes...so make a trade for Darko, Jaric, and Crittenton for Randolph, Collins, and Lee

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -12.7 ppg, -10.8 rpg, and +0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.8 minutes
Marko Jaric
6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
8.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 29.3 minutes
Darko Milicic
7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
7.2 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 23.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mardy Collins
6-6 SG from Temple
3.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 13.8 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.1 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.6 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.5 minutes
Memphis Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +12.7 ppg, +10.8 rpg, and -0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Mardy Collins
6-6 SG from Temple
3.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 13.8 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.1 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.6 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.8 minutes
Marko Jaric
6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
8.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 29.3 minutes
Darko Milicic
7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
7.2 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 23.8 minutes


This trade opens up 62mpg game to be used


...so heres my minute breakdown for next year (with Mabury waived and Houston not signed)

Duhon 25 mpg Nate 10 Crawford 8 Jaric 5
Crawford 25 Nate 15 Jaric 8
Richardson 26 Chandler 10 Gallo 5 Jaric 7
Chandler 20 Gallo 18 Jeffries 10
Curry 30 Milicic 18

Translation: Crawford 33 mpg, Curry 30 mpg, Chandler 30 mpg, Richardon 26 mpg, Duhon 25mpg, Nate 25 mpg, Gallo 23 mpg, Jaric 20 mpg, Milicic 18mpg & Jeffries 10 mpg


Crittenton, Ewing Jr., Roberson, Rose & James are benchwarmers

Posted by GKFv2:

Lee has more value than being traded for Crittenton.

Lee killed a Memphis trade once, don't make him do it again!

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Taking back Walker's doesn't even make sense for giving up a pick. Since his contract is expiring how does that help you if you are still over the salary cap. It only helps the Grizzlies. So give them a first round pick and they give you Walker. How does that help the Knicks? No way this can be credible. If it is then Walsh should be immediately fired for stupidity.

if we take Walker instead of Jaric, it saves about $8 million on the 2010 cap number.

Yeah, but it appears that the Knicks still take Jaric, so I don't understand the Walker addition. Can't be true. Like I said Walsh should be fired if that is added as well.

Per Alan Hahn.

The latest I'm hearing on the Zach Randolph-to-Memphis talks is that the Grizzlies want a first-round pick from the Knicks. Getting a bit greedy, no? Donnie has countered by saying if he's giving up a first-rounder, he wants something more back with Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric.

So Memphis wants us to pay nearly 15M of the deferred? Or all 25M?

Sorry, but Dolan isn't paying that much money just to get rid of Randolph.

And this leaves even LESS credibility to the rumored 1st round pick being demanded.

Yeah, LOL

Randolph
25M Cash
1st round pick (unprotected IM SURE lol)

for

Darko and Marko?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

the deferred payments are not interest free either...

This idea of trading Randolph desperately is becoming ridiculous. We can't project to be that desperate because teams will jump on us like the Grizzlies are. Are we forgetting that we have two years to trade him and most of the team to have a decent chance at the great free agents of 2010? We are acting like King James has committed to the Knicks and we need to clear the house immediately.

The original trade, that being Zach for Darko and Marko, is a solid deal for both teams. Not a steal for anyone, especially NY because they would still have Marko's money for a third year. If they want to get into the deferred money and the draft pick, we must say no because we can't let other franchises think we are so desperate we would do anything to remove a player from the team.

Don't forget that staying put IS STILL AN OPTION. If the deal isn't solid for the Knicks, better back away from it.

knicks like lee.
knicks like curry.

if the knicks want lee + curry to get PT and to play better than they have, then randolph must go. bringing all three back, especially curry + zach makes no sense unless they think d'antoni is the greatest coach of all time and can make it work.

you can't go by rumors (i.e. the clippers deal). we don't know the specifics so there's no point going nuts about it. knicks have more money than anybody else, so the deferred payments thing really means nothing. it comes down to whether they want to ship out a #1 pick (if we are to believe the gossip) to save $10 mil in cap in 2010.

are you willing to do that? most likely, the pick will be in 2012 which is probably after d'antoni has moved on and most definitely after walsh is gone too.

Posted by djsunyc:

i'm a little leery about adding d'marko to the squad...that would give the knicks 4 white dudes...possibly 5 if you count duhon.

You racist pig! I want an asian player here now!! Send Mardy for Sun Yue and Coby Karl(another white dude) from the Lakers.