Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by VDesai:

Dunleavy was at the Knicks summer league game- almost certainly he was scouting Gallo, Chandler, Balk or Collins.

was he there only at that game? or was he there the whole day? b/c there were alot of gm's at the knicks summerleague game.

Alan Hahn indicated that Dunleavy left directly after the Knicks game. Check the Notes & quotes section here:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-spknix0715,0,2010076.story

looks like the zach + lala may have had some actual legs to it. oh well, i guess it's time to just close up shop then...

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Knicksfan:
Either way, Zach's value, even at an all-time low for most of you, is more than an expiring contract and a second rounder. At least make it a first

the way i understand it, there isn't even an expiring involved in the deal... Clips are simply absorbing Camby's contract for a future 2nd round pick... it gives the Nuggets instant cap relief & they don't have to take back even an expiring contract in return... it makes sense for the Clippers to do this type of trade... this isn't quite the same as the rumored Zach deal.

After losing Elton Brand to Philadelphia, the Clippers called the Knicks seeking a deal to acquire Zach Randolph.
Sports Illustrated reports that the Knicks are unwilling to trade the offensively gifted Randolph for what would amount to a salary dump of the final three years of his contract. The Clippers' proposal would not provide comparable return on talent.

The thinking could be that new head coach Mike D'Antoni will rejuvenate the Knicks while elevating Randolph's game and therefore his trade value.

The Clippers can also pursue Josh Smith and Emeka Okafor to fill their vacant power forward slot, but both are restricted free-agents whose respective teams can match any offer.


This is the original deal that Dunleavy offered for Randolph. Walsh wanted back expiring contracts. Dunleavy threw in Cuttino and DeAndre Jordan. Walsh wanted Gordon, I am not sure if he wanted Cuttino. This story was reported in LA as well. From my understanding Walsh just kept asking for more.

that sounds like a whole lotta speculating to me... but who knows... like i said, i'm waiting to hear the Clips or Knicks speak on that one before i lend any credence to it.

Don't hold your breath. GMs usually never talk about potential trades especially those that do not materialize. I mean that would bad business anyway. "To all the fans, we are discussing a trade to get rid of Z-Bo." .... "Damn, it didn't happen."

what are u talking about? GM's dispell rumors like this all the time when they're not true.

Posted by fishmike:

lol.. I'm prob the only guy on this board glad we didnt give Zach up for nothing

I am with you...

Posted by n24d30:
"It's not a checkers move," he said. "It's a chess move. Chess is a tougher game to understand. You've got to wait longer to see the results of the move."

everyone is so quick to criticize teams for salary dump type trades but IMO it takes a lot of foresight & balls to make these types of moves because it involves a broader, long range vision than always seeking the instant gratification of trades... u have to assess the future of your franchise & what you can realistically achieve w/the roster you have... if u don't see much of a future, you need to start thinking about dumping guys that add nothing to your longrange vision... hopefully Walsh has the foresight to do just that.