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3/20/2008  3:32 PM
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3/20/2008  3:42 PM
does anyone have the exact comments the minister said?
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3/20/2008  3:48 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:

How about

"I am proud that we've been given the opportuntity to help lead the United States of America back to prominence" I feel the last 7 years has been a hurtful time in America and that is why we stand for change. We want America to be the best country it can be and we will do that with your help.

You just said the EXACT same thing she said but you just used "politics" to say it. Your statement doesn't address the things that has happened in the past that may have made a person she not so proud of this nation's politics. Basically what you are saying is that your real issue is the choice of words because you just said the same thing....basically. To talk about the past and say "the last 7 years was hurtful" is the same as saying things have been going on that you are "not proud of". I think your issue is with political correctness.

hurtful and not proud have two different meanings. It's been a hurtful time in the United States for a whole lot of proud Americans. People who have lost their children in the war are hurting but does that mean they are not proud of their childs sacrifice or their country?

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-20-2008 3:54 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-20-2008 3:55 PM]
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3/20/2008  3:57 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:

How about

"I am proud that we've been given the opportuntity to help lead the United States of America back to prominence" I feel the last 7 years has been a hurtful time in America and that is why we stand for change. We want America to be the best country it can be and we will do that with your help.

You just said the EXACT same thing she said but you just used "politics" to say it. Your statement doesn't address the things that has happened in the past that may have made a person she not so proud of this nation's politics. Basically what you are saying is that your real issue is the choice of words because you just said the same thing....basically. To talk about the past and say "the last 7 years was hurtful" is the same as saying things have been going on that you are "not proud of". I think your issue is with political correctness.

hurtful and not proud are too different meanings. It's been a hurtful time in the United States for a whole lot of proud Americans. People who have lost their children in the war are hurting but does that mean they are not proud of their childs sacrifice?

" People who have lost their children in the war". That line should incorporate how that parent feels about the war. Perhaps that parent feels the war is injust. Perhaps that parent feels that the war was gone into carelessly and without reguards to the future of that child. So when you posed that you posed it wrong. You posed it and asked 'does that mean they are not proud of the CHILD'S SACRIFICE?'. The question is: are they proud of the position that the government put their child in? Given the fact that many people are pissed off about the war that answer would have to be NO. The statement was geared towards government. Not the people who simply following the orders. I don't think anyone has said they aren't proud of the sacrifies of the troops

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3/20/2008  4:12 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:

How about

"I am proud that we've been given the opportunity to help lead the United States of America back to prominence" I feel the last 7 years has been a hurtful time in America and that is why we stand for change. We want America to be the best country it can be and we will do that with your help.

You just said the EXACT same thing she said but you just used "politics" to say it. Your statement doesn't address the things that has happened in the past that may have made a person she not so proud of this nation's politics. Basically what you are saying is that your real issue is the choice of words because you just said the same thing....basically. To talk about the past and say "the last 7 years was hurtful" is the same as saying things have been going on that you are "not proud of". I think your issue is with political correctness.

hurtful and not proud are too different meanings. It's been a hurtful time in the United States for a whole lot of proud Americans. People who have lost their children in the war are hurting but does that mean they are not proud of their childs sacrifice?

" People who have lost their children in the war". That line should incorporate how that parent feels about the war. Perhaps that parent feels the war is injust. Perhaps that parent feels that the war was gone into carelessly and without reguards to the future of that child. So when you posed that you posed it wrong. You posed it and asked 'does that mean they are not proud of the CHILD'S SACRIFICE?'. The question is: are they proud of the position that the government put their child in? Given the fact that many people are pissed off about the war that answer would have to be NO. The statement was geared towards government. Not the people who simply following the orders. I don't think anyone has said they aren't proud of the sacrifies of the troops

theloniusmonk---hundreds of thousands of Americans have died in the US throughout it's entire history via war to help protect it's country. i don't think any of the parents are happy about it but Im sure a very very large majority are proud that they did give their lives--and guess what--if they didn't you and I would NOT be here to discuss the point--that is why I'm disgusted with what she said. It's OBVIOUS that she disturbed a lot of people along with Mr Wright and rightfully so. What she said was dubious and selfish. What Mr Wright said was plain hateful and shameful. We don't need this kind of drama in the United States---we need someone to go to work without issue.
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3/20/2008  4:14 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by BRIGGS:

How about

"I am proud that we've been given the opportuntity to help lead the United States of America back to prominence" I feel the last 7 years has been a hurtful time in America and that is why we stand for change. We want America to be the best country it can be and we will do that with your help.

You just said the EXACT same thing she said but you just used "politics" to say it. Your statement doesn't address the things that has happened in the past that may have made a person she not so proud of this nation's politics. Basically what you are saying is that your real issue is the choice of words because you just said the same thing....basically. To talk about the past and say "the last 7 years was hurtful" is the same as saying things have been going on that you are "not proud of". I think your issue is with political correctness.

hurtful and not proud are too different meanings. It's been a hurtful time in the United States for a whole lot of proud Americans. People who have lost their children in the war are hurting but does that mean they are not proud of their childs sacrifice?

" People who have lost their children in the war". That line should incorporate how that parent feels about the war. Perhaps that parent feels the war is injust. Perhaps that parent feels that the war was gone into carelessly and without reguards to the future of that child. So when you posed that you posed it wrong. You posed it and asked 'does that mean they are not proud of the CHILD'S SACRIFICE?'. The question is: are they proud of the position that the government put their child in? Given the fact that many people are pissed off about the war that answer would have to be NO. The statement was geared towards government. Not the people who simply following the orders. I don't think anyone has said they aren't proud of the sacrifies of the troops



It's sad throughout human history man has made it's own specie feel endangered and obligated to defend, to the point they sacrifice the one life they have over how government is established. No human should feel so pressured or obligated to sacrifice their life under any circumstance. The day this is eliminated is the day when the world will be functioning like it should be. United Nations is a failure and every form of human government has failed. Hillary and Baraka are human just like us and don't have any answers/real lasting solutions for the mess this country is in, yet alone the whole world.


I have a question to those who have a good knowledge of US President history.


What president would most say did the best for this country throughout US history of presidency?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-20-2008 4:08 PM]
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Trueblue,

In semi-modern times FDR hands down.
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Posted by misterearl:

But to many of us in the black community, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. got it right.

Vernon S. Burton
San Leandro, Calif., March 19, 2008

If I may, that scares people. And if they vote against him, because they are afraid, then you can't blame them. Obama's trying to heal that fear.
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here you go --here is the drama--

Should Obama become the Democratic nominee, conservative activists are virtually certain to remind voters of Obama's ties to Wright, perhaps by using the videos in TV ads, several strategists said.

"He can give a speech a week, and it's not going to make the issue go away," said Chris LaCivita, a Republican adviser who helped create the "Swift Boat" ads that severely damaged John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign


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Posted by BRIGGS:

here you go --here is the drama--

Should Obama become the Democratic nominee, conservative activists are virtually certain to remind voters of Obama's ties to Wright, perhaps by using the videos in TV ads, several strategists said.

"He can give a speech a week, and it's not going to make the issue go away," said Chris LaCivita, a Republican adviser who helped create the "Swift Boat" ads that severely damaged John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign

Are you talking to me?
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3/20/2008  5:00 PM
Should Obama become the Democratic nominee, conservative activists are virtually certain to remind voters of Obama's ties to Wright, perhaps by using the videos in TV ads, several strategists said.

"He can give a speech a week, and it's not going to make the issue go away," said Chris LaCivita, a Republican adviser who helped create the "Swift Boat" ads that severely damaged John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign


briggs, i think this is precisely why so many people are enamored with obama. because he represents a person who is not going to rely on caustic, make-believe television ads to win the election. people who are fed up with the BS of politics like obama and thus will not be detracted by this preacher nonsense b/c thats exactly what it is, nonsense. if some stupid redneck in the middle of the country who is appaled by obama's middle name being hussein sees the comments, he'll have more reason to dislike barack, but to the supporters, i think they have spoken.

democrats have turned out in RECORD numbers this primary season, a large part of that because of obama and his grassroots coalition. over ONE MILLION americans have donated money to obama's campaign, he has a liberal voting record in congress but a high percentage of his bills receive BI-PARTISAN support, and the main thing obama is against, in my opinion, is old washington politics (hence the michelle obama quote).

if it is "chris lacivita, a republican adviser who helped create the swift boat ads" that wind up burying obama's candidacy, i think that will only fuel the people who have supported obama because that type of bull**** is not relevant or pertinent in any way.

i mean, this guy lacivita helped bush get elected to a second term, that is pathetic and embarassing. at the end of the day, i'll vote for mccain over hillary but obama over mccain, so we'll see how it turns out.
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Posted by BigSm00th:
at the end of the day, i'll vote for mccain over hillary but obama over mccain, so we'll see how it turns out.

i really don't understand this way of thinking? please explain, is it simply 'anyone but a woman?'
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at the end of the day, i'll vote for mccain over hillary but obama over mccain, so we'll see how it turns out.

i really don't understand this way of thinking? please explain, is it simply 'anyone but a woman?'

I don't understand it either.
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3/20/2008  6:14 PM
i'm not a democract. i think the best candidate is obama, followed by mccain. i don't like hillary because i think she is divisive, not a good leader, and i dismiss her "experience" as first lady.
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3/20/2008  6:15 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

i'm not a democract. i think the best candidate is obama, followed by mccain. i don't like hillary because i think she is divisive, not a good leader, and i dismiss her "experience" as first lady.

And you have every right to your beliefs. No one should question it.

And that's the Democratic way.

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3/20/2008  6:20 PM
and explain to me how, if hillary is better than obama because of "experience" why she is better than mccain, a war hero and senator for, what, four decades?
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3/20/2008  6:23 PM
Tell me about Obama's experience.
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3/20/2008  6:29 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

i'm not a democract. i think the best candidate is obama, followed by mccain. i don't like hillary because i think she is divisive, not a good leader, and i dismiss her "experience" as first lady.

how can you not be a democrat, but then say the most liberal candidate is the best?
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Posted by 4949:

Tell me about Obama's experience.

This is a bad argument. George W Bush practically grew up in and around white house affairs (1980-1992 and around CIA b4 that). He was governor of America's biggest state. Dealt with guys from various middle eastern countries and abroad. That was suppose to all be EXPERIENCE. Terrible president. Terrible! On the flip side there have been plenty of presidents that had never SNIFFED being around white house affairs. Let's start with slick Willie C.

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Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by 4949:

Tell me about Obama's experience.

This is a bad argument. George W Bush practically grew up in and around white house affairs (1980-1992 and around CIA b4 that). He was governor of America's biggest state. Dealt with guys from various middle eastern countries and abroad. That was suppose to all be EXPERIENCE. Terrible president. Terrible! On the flip side there have been plenty of presidents that had never SNIFFED being around white house affairs. Let's start with slick Willie C.

And the same thing can be said of former President Kennedy, who came from a political family, that some people compare Obama to.

I'm starting to wonder why HIllary's experience is constantly under fire, but no one's willing to tell us about Obama's experience?

Tell me about Obama's experience. Can anyone answer this question?
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