Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Bippity10:
All this "trim the fat talk". I will view this as an apology by all the people that called me a hater for using this exact term for the past 3 years. I see, now you guys are understanding what I was talking about. Makes sense now, huh. Apology accepted.
I honestly can't remember, but were people actually disagreeing with you on this? I would think that most of us were always in favor of someone on this roster getting moved off.
Also I'm not sure everyone means exactly the same thing when we say trim the fat. How exactly do you mean it?
Yes, the first time I brought it up I was told that we didn't have to trim the fat. Actually I was constantly told that all the fat we had, wasn't actually fat, it was depth. Depth that would help us withstand injuries, blah, blah, blah.
You're not gonna open up that can of worms again are you? Really I think that's been beaten to death.
You still didn't answer the question. WHO do you mean when you're talking about trimming the fat. It surely doesn't include the young guys who were left when we had all those injuries. We got rid of Francis who I'd include in the fat if that's what you mean.
Oh and let's get some things cleared up about me and you and the Francis and Steph thing. I don't like Francis and never did. I defended the idea that Francis, Steph, Jamal and Nate, should be able to run the plays that Isiah had in store for them. The reason is that his sets are very basic and don't require a lot of reading of the defense by the PG. This isn't a Kidd or Nash deal where they keep the ball in their hands and make all the important decisions with the ball. If you went back you'd see that most of the time the basic set starts with the PG passing to the post and making a cut or passing to the SF in the corner and making his cut. There's not a lot of rocket science involved in that basic play. When the ball goes inside, the PG makes his way back up top if he's not given the ball on his cut to the basket. If the Center is doubled and chooses he can make the pass back to the PG who then could refeed the post or swing the ball to the weakside where Francis would most often be and then you could have a 2 man game with Francis and Frye or Lee. That's the basic set that Isiah most often ran. This is what I was speaking to. Steph didn't have a problem with the 1st parts of this. It was after that when he got the ball back that he had his problems. But then he finally figured it out.
Francis it seems couldn't really get comfortable with any of it. If he got the ball and was open he didn't want to shoot it unless he dribbled. If he had a pick often he'd lose control of the ball on his initial move and that would totally mess up his head. He'd end up calling his own number and breaking the play. So I would say that you were half right. Francis didn't work, but I think Steph did and eventually so did Jamal. Nate was too eager to call his own number and never passed, so you could say that he didn't work either, tho i'll give him more of a pass than Francis.
7/26/2007 9:16 AM
