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3/21/2007  12:14 AM
Posted by codeunknown:
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Too hard on Isiah? Wow. How can you be too hard on Isiah after 1) the Marbury trade, 2) the Mo Taylor trade, 3) Malik Rose trade 4) the Curry trade, 5) the arrival of Jerome, 6) the Jared Jeffries 5yr deal 7) the Chaney situation 8) the Wilkens situation and, of course, 9) the LB situation.


What's Anuscha, copped liver?

My theory is Stephon initiated it. And Isiah was just trying to back his player up.

Rule #14: Never leave a fellow crasher behind.
Rule # 32: Play like a champion.

IOW, if Anushca were white she'd be just another ho'

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3/21/2007  12:19 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:
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Too hard on Isiah? Wow. How can you be too hard on Isiah after 1) the Marbury trade, 2) the Mo Taylor trade, 3) Malik Rose trade 4) the Curry trade, 5) the arrival of Jerome, 6) the Jared Jeffries 5yr deal 7) the Chaney situation 8) the Wilkens situation and, of course, 9) the LB situation.


What's Anuscha, copped liver?

My theory is Stephon initiated it. And Isiah was just trying to back his player up.

Rule #14: Never leave a fellow crasher behind.
Rule # 32: Play like a champion.

IOW, if Anushca were white she'd be just another ho'

I still can't believe Isiah wanted to get his paws on her puppies.
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3/21/2007  12:20 AM
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I don't get the P.O.V. that Isiah felt we HAD to make the Curry deal.

Not only did Isiah sign a guy who he said was our starter(Jerome) and that he gushed about, he also drafted another center(Frye), whom he claimed he would have taken at 1.

So after all this lip service, he felt he needed to acquire another center? Let alone the fact that we were the ONLY team involved in any type of substantiative talks to get Curry. I would have been happy with just a top 3 to top 5 protection, especially that year, or no protection that year and no swapping of picks.

Either way, I don't see any reason why Isiah would have believed we HAD to make that deal and not use a hardball negotiating tactic.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-20-2007 9:52 PM]

Isiah wanted to get Curry as soon as possible. He didn't want to risk ticking Paxson off and then having the deal squashed. If that happens there's no guarantee the deal every gets done. Maybe in time Curry gives in and makes a deal with Chicago. He struck while the iron was hot and tempers were high between Curry and Chicago. I still think it was a good move for this franchise. James was only a stop gap move. Frye was a rook with some promise but no track record. He felt he knew what he was getting with Curry and that he could get him to the next level. He has had some success with other young Bigmen and I'm sure he felt confident that he could get Curry to where he wanted him to be.

I think some of us are WAY too hard on Isiah and his decisions. This team isn't as far away from being a team you can expect to be in the playoffs every year. We have to allow the team to keep growing and for Isiah to finish tweaking the roster and filling in the missing pieces.

Too hard on Isiah? Wow. How can you be too hard on Isiah after 1) the Marbury trade, 2) the Mo Taylor trade, 3) Malik Rose trade 4) the Curry trade, 5) the arrival of Jerome, 6) the Jared Jeffries 5yr deal 7) the Chaney situation 8) the Wilkens situation and, of course, 9) the LB situation.

You're seriously becoming my favorite poster of all time. The Wedding Crashers lines just put you over the top.
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3/21/2007  12:31 AM
Posted by codeunknown:
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Too hard on Isiah? Wow. How can you be too hard on Isiah after 1) the Marbury trade, 2) the Mo Taylor trade, 3) Malik Rose trade 4) the Curry trade, 5) the arrival of Jerome, 6) the Jared Jeffries 5yr deal 7) the Chaney situation 8) the Wilkens situation and, of course, 9) the LB situation.


What's Anuscha, copped liver?

My theory is Stephon initiated it. And Isiah was just trying to back his player up.

Rule #14: Never leave a fellow crasher behind.
Rule # 32: Play like a champion.

IOW, if Anushca were white she'd be just another ho'

I still can't believe Isiah wanted to get his paws on her puppies.


Yeah but he was playing on her while also denying her access to the players for ad campaigns (hence the cardboard cut-outs) and hindering her mobility in the organization. Sounds like classic power tripping to think she'd want him even while he's screwing her over.
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3/21/2007  5:28 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by joec32033:

I don't get the P.O.V. that Isiah felt we HAD to make the Curry deal.

Not only did Isiah sign a guy who he said was our starter(Jerome) and that he gushed about, he also drafted another center(Frye), whom he claimed he would have taken at 1.

So after all this lip service, he felt he needed to acquire another center? Let alone the fact that we were the ONLY team involved in any type of substantiative talks to get Curry. I would have been happy with just a top 3 to top 5 protection, especially that year, or no protection that year and no swapping of picks.

Either way, I don't see any reason why Isiah would have believed we HAD to make that deal and not use a hardball negotiating tactic.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-20-2007 9:52 PM]

Isiah wanted to get Curry as soon as possible. He didn't want to risk ticking Paxson off and then having the deal squashed. If that happens there's no guarantee the deal every gets done. Maybe in time Curry gives in and makes a deal with Chicago. He struck while the iron was hot and tempers were high between Curry and Chicago. I still think it was a good move for this franchise. James was only a stop gap move. Frye was a rook with some promise but no track record. He felt he knew what he was getting with Curry and that he could get him to the next level. He has had some success with other young Bigmen and I'm sure he felt confident that he could get Curry to where he wanted him to be.

I think some of us are WAY too hard on Isiah and his decisions. This team isn't as far away from being a team you can expect to be in the playoffs every year. We have to allow the team to keep growing and for Isiah to finish tweaking the roster and filling in the missing pieces.

Nix, that deal wouldn't have been squashed in a million years based on the expirings (TT) and the fact we were offering Sweets who was showing promise. The contracts alone made it impossible for the Bulls to turn it down, let alone the fact we were the only team in the market for a 22 year old, 285 pounder with a possible heart condition.

Isiah should have held on as long as possible and tried to hardball AND lowball Pax. The fact that Pax was able to squeeze those unprotected picks out of him just shows that sometimes Isiah just gets infatuated with a player and he has to get him(he is alot like LB in that respect).
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extend kudos for isiah's relentless pursuit of mediocrity? (article)

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