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nyk4ever
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In the wake of all the threads that have been created recently about Eddy's scoring(which has been fantastic of late) is it enough for you that he scores points but doesn't do other things that centers are supposed to do? Things such as rebound, block shots, provide man to man defense as well as help defense, which is absolutely killing the Knicks. Although Eddy is scoring a ton of points, his presence on the court seems to be nullified because of his poor defensive habits and lack of effort on the defensive end. This is not a poll to bring down Eddy Curry, I'm just curious of the results, since it has been a hot topic on this forum lately and it's been widely debated by all who have participated.
Eddy's scoring is enough for me and his defense does not worry me
I don't care how many points Eddy scores, if he's not playing defense it's worthless
Who cares we're still losing games
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Bonn1997
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12/11/2006  8:25 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Right now you might be able to trade Eddy for Brand, J. O. , KG, or Odom if you wanted to get a two-way player or Bynum if you wanted a young guy who will likely be a very good two-way player.

Guys I would target with Eddy-in no particular order-:

Bosh
Amare
Dwight Howard
Carmelo
LeBron
Joe Johnson
Gasol
Chris Paul
Zach Randolph AND Jarrett Jack
Boozer AND Deron
I'd consider Jason Richardson and Murphy
a PACKAGE OF Dalembert and Iggy

I would too and if anyone said they wouldn't than they just aren't being realistic.
I think those expectations are one notch too high. Eddy's a franchise player only on one end of the court and you're asking for franchise players on both ends of the court. I'd be content with a young two-way all-star big man who isn't a franchise player.



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 12-11-2006 08:25 AM]
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Solace
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12/11/2006  8:27 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Right now you might be able to trade Eddy for Brand, J. O. , KG, or Odom if you wanted to get a two-way player or Bynum if you wanted a young guy who will likely be a very good two-way player.

Guys I would target with Eddy-in no particular order-:

Bosh
Amare
Dwight Howard
Carmelo
LeBron
Joe Johnson
Gasol
Chris Paul
Zach Randolph AND Jarrett Jack
Boozer AND Deron
I'd consider Jason Richardson and Murphy
a PACKAGE OF Dalembert and Iggy

I would too and if anyone said they wouldn't than they just aren't being realistic.
I think those expectations are one notch too high. Eddy's a franchise player only on one end of the court and you're asking for franchise players on both ends of the court. I'd be content with a young two-way all-star big man who isn't a franchise player.

Agreed. It's really hard to trade a good big man and get a better one. We could get a star guard for Eddy (not that we should do that sort of trade!), but a star big man is probably out of the question, unless we find someone who is causing Artest-like problems in his current setting.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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12/11/2006  8:40 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Right now you might be able to trade Eddy for Brand, J. O. , KG, or Odom if you wanted to get a two-way player or Bynum if you wanted a young guy who will likely be a very good two-way player.

Guys I would target with Eddy-in no particular order-:

Bosh
Amare
Dwight Howard
Carmelo
LeBron
Joe Johnson
Gasol
Chris Paul
Zach Randolph AND Jarrett Jack
Boozer AND Deron
I'd consider Jason Richardson and Murphy
a PACKAGE OF Dalembert and Iggy

I would too and if anyone said they wouldn't than they just aren't being realistic.
I think those expectations are one notch too high. Eddy's a franchise player only on one end of the court and you're asking for franchise players on both ends of the court. I'd be content with a young two-way all-star big man who isn't a franchise player.

Agreed. It's really hard to trade a good big man and get a better one. We could get a star guard for Eddy (not that we should do that sort of trade!), but a star big man is probably out of the question, unless we find someone who is causing Artest-like problems in his current setting.
We're agreeing more often! I think it's because I'm getting smarter and catching up to you!
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12/11/2006  8:49 AM
eddy's gotta keep this up for . . . oh, how about a WHOLE SEASON before i consider him even close to any of the company mentioned above.

some guys got short memories. as in for the 9 games prior to his current 9-game 20 point streak he averaged 10.5 points and 5 rebounds.

you guys are really buying that his currnt streak is an indication of what he can be counted on to consistently produce from here on in??????
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12/11/2006  9:12 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

We're agreeing more often! I think it's because I'm getting smarter and catching up to you!

Hahaha. As long as that doesn't mean I'm getting dumber, I'll take it. It's funny that we're mostly agreeing now. I think we now both see that there's some good pieces, but we still have a few gaping holes that have to be accounted for.
Posted by Marv:

eddy's gotta keep this up for . . . oh, how about a WHOLE SEASON before i consider him even close to any of the company mentioned above.

some guys got short memories. as in for the 9 games prior to his current 9-game 20 point streak he averaged 10.5 points and 5 rebounds.

you guys are really buying that his currnt streak is an indication of what he can be counted on to consistently produce from here on in??????

Agreed. I think it's easy to get up in a player getting hot. If Eddy averaged 20, 9 and over 1 blk per game for a season, he'd be in that company. 18 and 7 (where he's at now for the season) would have him as an honorable mention, but not in that company. 16 and 6 (as he had a few weeks ago) would have him not even close. He's got a ways to go, but I like how he's playing. Anyway, the fact that Eddy's on the best streak of his career and people are talking about trading him says one thing to me: deep inside, most people don't think he can sustain it for a season. If other teams feel that way, then the streak doesn't have a ton of value.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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12/12/2006  9:40 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Right now you might be able to trade Eddy for Brand, J. O. , KG, or Odom if you wanted to get a two-way player or Bynum if you wanted a young guy who will likely be a very good two-way player.

Guys I would target with Eddy-in no particular order-:

Bosh
Amare
Dwight Howard
Carmelo
LeBron
Joe Johnson
Gasol
Chris Paul
Zach Randolph AND Jarrett Jack
Boozer AND Deron
I'd consider Jason Richardson and Murphy
a PACKAGE OF Dalembert and Iggy

I would too and if anyone said they wouldn't than they just aren't being realistic.
I think those expectations are one notch too high. Eddy's a franchise player only on one end of the court and you're asking for franchise players on both ends of the court. I'd be content with a young two-way all-star big man who isn't a franchise player.

Agreed. It's really hard to trade a good big man and get a better one. We could get a star guard for Eddy (not that we should do that sort of trade!), but a star big man is probably out of the question, unless we find someone who is causing Artest-like problems in his current setting.
Which (if any) of those players I listed would you try to trade Curry for in a package? (Brand, J.O., Odom, KG, Bynum)
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12/12/2006  9:44 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Ira:

None of the above on the poll. He's scoring well and I'd like to see him playing better d, but he's not worthless. He's just not a top player, in spite of his numbers, until he plays good d.
agreed

Yeah, that really is a good way to sum it up.
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12/12/2006  9:55 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Right now you might be able to trade Eddy for Brand, J. O. , KG, or Odom if you wanted to get a two-way player or Bynum if you wanted a young guy who will likely be a very good two-way player.

Guys I would target with Eddy-in no particular order-:

Bosh
Amare
Dwight Howard
Carmelo
LeBron
Joe Johnson
Gasol
Chris Paul
Zach Randolph AND Jarrett Jack
Boozer AND Deron
I'd consider Jason Richardson and Murphy
a PACKAGE OF Dalembert and Iggy

I would too and if anyone said they wouldn't than they just aren't being realistic.
I think those expectations are one notch too high. Eddy's a franchise player only on one end of the court and you're asking for franchise players on both ends of the court. I'd be content with a young two-way all-star big man who isn't a franchise player.

Agreed. It's really hard to trade a good big man and get a better one. We could get a star guard for Eddy (not that we should do that sort of trade!), but a star big man is probably out of the question, unless we find someone who is causing Artest-like problems in his current setting.
Which (if any) of those players I listed would you try to trade Curry for in a package? (Brand, J.O., Odom, KG, Bynum)

I would consider trading for any of them, and would probably get rejected on all, except maybe Odom. However, considering the Lakers have Bynum, I don't see them taking Curry too. Brand for Curry I do in a heartbeat, but no way LAC does it. KG, yes. Jermaine O'Neal, yes. We're getting older in any trade (except for Bynum), but we're also going places I don't think Eddy Curry can take us.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
Bonn1997
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12/12/2006  10:57 AM
Fair enough. I could see the Clippers wanting the younger player. We might have to include Lee in these deals, which completely changes things. Would you trade Lee and Eddy for JO or Elton? It's a lot for us to give up, but two-way 20/10 bigs are so hard to get.
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