Posted by Solace:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Bonn1997:



So it sounds like you would be excluded from this allegedly huge group of people who *love* Isiah

Hey Bonn where did I say a huge group? I said *some*, quit nitpicking.

UltimateKnick Wars: Return of the Snit

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-15-2006 4:20 PM]

If Bonn responds, is that "The Snitpire Strikes Back"?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Bonn1997:



So it sounds like you would be excluded from this allegedly huge group of people who *love* Isiah

Hey Bonn where did I say a huge group? I said *some*, quit nitpicking.

UltimateKnick Wars: Return of the Snit

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-15-2006 4:20 PM]

Posted by joec32033:

>>joeC - Once again Renaldo looks like a Bruce Bowen-ish/Extremely poor homeless man's version of Spree.

Homeless mans version of Spree? That's sho nuf funny. Now please explain what that means.

Hi defenseive game reminds me of Spree, his offensive game reminds me of Ben Wallace.

Seriously, he has no set offensive game to speak of other than one step-one dribble-dunk. His intensity, defense, and heart remind me of Spree.

>>joeC - I am happy we have him but we could have made out better, I have no doubt about that.

I have no doubt that Balkman has YET to play a single NBA game. Just like the rest of the class of 06.

You are absolutly correct, he hasn't. We drafted a guy that got 9.1 points and 6 rebounds at the 20 pick. We passed up Shannon Brown (17 and 4 and good D), we passed up Ager (19 and 4 and good D), Farmar (13, 5 assists, 2.6 rebs.), Marcus Williams(12, 4, 8.6 assists), Boone (10, 7, 2 blks and a legit 6-10)..Hell we passed up PJ Tucker(16, 9, 3 assists as good D as Balkman)....

So if you are going to base it on the fact that you hven't seen them play in NBA games and we can only go by actual stats, it acually makes it seem alot worse.

Personally I love Balkman's game but I would have been happier coming out of this draft with Williams, Boone(or Collins), and PJ Tucker. If we opened the flood gates and started shopping that pick I can't see a team (especially the Nets who absultely STOLE Marcus at 22 and he will improve the team because he is a much better PG than Zoran-and set the team up for the future) passing it up.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 07-16-2006 8:38 PM]

I would love to read the Renaldo Balkman scouting reports if he played in France or Lithuania while writers gushed about his "upside" or the always essential - "things that don't show up in the box score".

The fierce negative reaction in The Garden only further eroded the reputation of New York fans as knowledgeable students of the game.

Balkman has not had the benefit of one formal practice or played a single game with his NBA teammates.

My wish is that Balkman becomes a cult hero and crowd favorite in the tradition of Kurt Rambis / Chris Dudley / Harthorne Wingo / Herb Williams and 32 jerseys fly off the shelves and become the most elegant NY sports fashion statement by January.

Play ball!

Play Balkman

>>Seems like a low expectaion, low standard type of attitude for a draft that was chock full of productive NBA players that the guy we picked about 33% through the NBA draft is "cult hero". I seriously doubt that Balkman was better than the remaing 67% of the players in this draft.

Au contraire, having a cult hero on your squad is ALWAYS a god thing. It means your team is so good that people look for "everyday people" kinda players they can RELATE to and cheer for in choice moments.

>>you could have gotten 2 productive players and signed him or traded down and gotten an extra late pick to take him.

JoeC - you so crazy. you could also pick a dude in the top ten who turns out to be a bust.

Best Valley Girl Impression available: "what eva"

The draft is history. Lets see who can play.

This volley over debating MOCK Drafts is a meaningless. These aren'e trading cards. These are people.

I could care less about "cult hero" or not - I guarantee pretty much everyone on this board will like Balkman by December except for the folks who have decided not to like anything Isiah does.

What's important is that he compliments the other players on this team and fills a gaping hole in the lineup. I've said for a while that Isiah's job this summer had to be about building a more cohesive roster with players who complimented on another. Balkman clearly compliments Lee and Frye and even Curry.

The jury is still out on the Collins pick, but he seems like he can fill the glaring need we have for perimeter defense, at least a little.

I'm happy with the picks because I think they'll lead to more cohesive play on the court. grabbing Marcus Williams and saying "we'll figure it all out later" is a luxury Isiah didn't have with his job on the line to improve the on the court results THIS season. It also is an approach that doesn't make sense when one of the main problems with the team is not a lack of talent but roster balance. Is Marcus Williams better than Marbury or Crawford? I doubt it. Is he better than Nate Robinson? remains to be seen.

Roster balance. Team chemistry. Defense. Effort. These are all things that folks were whining and whining about all season. Who fits that profile better? Marcus Williams? Or Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins?

I think we all know the answer, unless some of us are being delusional like Trevor Ariza that we needed another offensive star who needs the ball in his hands to be effective and doesn't do much else.