Posted by franco12:

for everyone saying Lee is able to replace JYD, Lee is a rookie and might not get it

Rose is a freagin midget and his rings don't mean anything except that he was playing alongside Tim Duncan.

I'm betting JYD ends up in miami!

Posted by simrud:

Penny blows, he can't shoot, and he can't jump. He quit on the team last year.

The hammy things is a total bs. He just did not feel like fighting for his time with Ariza. What a great rolemodel for young players. He is a cancer and shold have been waived just to protect the rooks from his morose influence.

Posted by fishmike:

no, because if JYD is THEN waived it would only be to sign another player, at which point you can disagree, but understand.

The reaction is fear. Fear of more idiotic moves that make zero sense.
The fact that JYD was a good role model for the young players as well as a community guy is just icing.

Posted by islesfan:

Reposting an earlier post of mine from a time when I cleary said I was multitasking and understood how it could be a bunch of run ons is a cheap shot my man. Then asking 'who understands this?'. Another cheap shot. Don't call ME a cheap shot artist my man. It all comes back to you.

Living Colour sings it.

Neon lights, A Nobel Price
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You don't have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your T.V.
I'm the Cult of Personality
I exploit you still you love me

Is that Isiah or wh
at? LOL

Posted by simrud:

You are missign the point, that was LAST YEAR. This year we have added James and Frye who both shold be ahead on the deapth chart, along with Sweetney. That leaves one backup PF spot open to go to either Rose or Taylor. ONE FREAKIN SPOT! Having two gusy to fill on need is retarded man. That is why we should have waived one of them. JYD would prolly only play at SF when matchup asked for it, but at least that is more of a use then being the 5th big in the rotation.

Posted by fishmike:

If Isiah amnesties Shamdon and THEN waives JYD, there'd be even more of an outrage. "We got rid of JYD for nothing! That's so stupid!"

no, because if JYD is THEN waived it would only be to sign another player, at which point you can disagree, but understand.

The reaction is fear. Fear of more idiotic moves that make zero sense.
The fact that JYD was a good role model for the young players as well as a community guy is just icing.

Posted by tomverve:

I'm struck by the irony that no matter who Isiah chose to waive, there would have been a large bellyaching from some contingent or another. Consider that the reasonable options for waiving were:

Houston
Shamdon
Mo
Rose
JYD

If we waive Houston: "Houston was going to retire anyway... what a stupid move!" or "Now Houston is going to sign with a conference rival... what a stupid move!"

If we waive Shamdon: "We still have 16 players on the roster, so one of them needs to go anyway... But no, we waste the waiver on Shamdon and now we're either forced to waive someone else without the amnesty, or make a desperation 2-for-1 that brings back another terrible contract... What a stupid move!"

If we waive Mo: "God, Isiah traded expiring contracts and a second rounder for this guy, now we let him go for nothing... what a stupid move!"

If we waive Rose: See complaints over JYD.

If we waive JYD: Obvious.

I'm sad to see JYD go. But come on, this is not the end of the world. Were there better options for waiving? Perhaps, but I don't think it's at all obvious which move was the best. As mentioned above, Houston might retire anyway, and if he doesn't, he should be healthy enough to fill a needed role as perimeter sniper. Waiving Shamdon, as mentioned above, would still leave us with a roster glut, someone else would still need to go.

Was Mo the obvious waiver choice? I'm not so sure. He's still our most talented low post scorer and I could see LB finding a useful role for him, a la Corliss Williamson.

Should've waived Rose instead? Not so sure. As technomaster pointed out, while Rose and JYD are similar, Rose is heftier and can legitimately guard centers. That's going to be a valuable asset when Jerome James is off the floor. Frye might be too much of a lightweight to guard the heavier centers at this point in his career.

I made a post recently where I argued that ultimately we should waive Mo. But it's not an easy choice at all, no matter who we waived there was going to be a downside. So Isiah chose JYD, and yes there's a downside and yes we all hate to see him go. But it's not obvious that there was a clearly superior candidate for waivers, and in any case, it ain't the end of the world. Come on, just cuz these are the dog days of summer doesn't mean we have to overreact to everything. In the grand scheme of things, is this a big deal? No, not really. The kind of things JYD brought to the game can be made up for by Rose, Ariza, and Lee. And ultimately, you know JYD wasn't going to last longer than the 2 more guaranteed years left on his deal. Is losing JYD going to be the difference between getting a better seed or not, or the difference between winning a playoff series or not in those 2 years? I highly doubt it. So it's not worth all the bellyaching.