gunsnewing wrote:

TheGame wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Last hour of debate

Trump called women pigs
Trump was for the Iran war
Trump show us your taxes
Trump why did you make birthed comments

First 30 minutes substance

I thought it was classy that trump refrained from attacking Hillary on how she has treated women in front of her daughter Chelsea and Hillary has less restraint and will sink to those levels. At least I hope that's what he was thinking and he wasn't in a defensive

He started off very well--if he said nothing after the first 30 minutes he wouldve been better off. Just watch the replay the last hour were baited topics that were no material 15 minutes on taxes 15 minutes on Iran the only substance in the entire debate wa the first 30--just go back and check the tape. The people I was watching with were laughing. If you are into no material events than Hillary won the 2nd half of that debate--if you like substance and did not care about non material events--then Trump did. He had her dead to rights and took his foot off her throat and was put on defense by non material topics. Birther taxes women are pigs etc..

BRIGGS please explain how Trump won the first 30 minutes. He did not articulate any clear solutions. The only thing I heard him say is he is going to cut taxes and regulations for corporations. He criticizes every trade agreements but I am at a loss as to what he is going to do differently other than "I will get a better deal." He openly admitted that he pays no taxes. Trump sounds good but when you really listen to him talk there is no substantive solutions. It is just Obama this and Obama that. The country is in far better condition economically than eight years ago, but if you listen to Trump the economy has never been worse in the history of US. The guy is a con man, and he is proud of that fact and he is now trying to pull off his biggest con.

This was certainly one of the underlying elements that kept playing in my head during this first debate. The other is how easily Hillary completely changes her previous stance and panders. How smug she is about it and lastly how ridiculously biased Holt was in favor of Hillary with Anderson Cooper looming. You have to be blind and death not to notice that.

I am hopeful and confident Trump has surrounded himself with qualified people. He isn't perfect but I still trust his intentions over Hillary and co. 7 days a week and twice on sunday

Name them.

Problem with this concept is he seems to not listen very well.

DrAlphaeus wrote:Remember when presidential rhetoric would lift the citizenry up to a higher level instead of stooping?

Ever read speeches by Lincoln or one of the Roosevelts? Even Reagan.

Maybe that's why our worldwide education metrics suck. We don't demand excellence from ourselves.

We now live in a country where appearing prepared like you studied for your Spanish test is a bad thing. Retarded.

meloshouldgo wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!

Complete opposite here--Trump signs everywhere in CT.

Does it not scare you that the last time we elected a relatively dumb president he nearly wrecked the world??? When will people learn? Bush was so bad that I can't understand why people in this country seem like they haven't learned that lesson yet. Trump would be the worst thing to happen to this country in our lifetime. I can't for the life of me understand your love for Trump BRIGGS. What is it about Trump that makes you believe he would be good for the country?

It's really the cost of admitting that they are wrong. That's what it boils down to. But there is another argument favouring Trump. People are sick and tired of establishment politicians. They want change. Admittedly a large group of them have no idea that the change they are supporting will be far worse in the long term, so they are blindly getting in line behind this jackass and repeating his gobbledygook double standards to boot.

So I can understand this sentiment, and it's exactly as you have concluded: Trump is not that guy, far from it. Bernie may have been but he lost to Hilary. Elizabeth Warren may be that person but she is not a young woman any more (67, a year younger than Hilary is today) by the time the election cycle begins again.

BRIGGS wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:I got a bumper sticker for BRIGGS:

Baba booey.

I have ojne for you

Trump's my Daddy

This is the most accurate thing you have said all thread. We know "who's your daddy"!

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Trump didn't lose anyone, but he kind of came undone.
She won votes last nite from undecided. Trump supporters like that he "tells it like it is". Its to be expected that if that is your perspective, then he tells it "LIke you want to hear it"!

What we have read is he has trouble staying focused, complete thoughts and listen. He does not wait for the question to be finished. Very telling.
Hillary was prepared, he was not.
There was much both of them could have gone after and there are still two more opportunities.

His surge recently was based on her illness and he used that to question her capacity.
She was cool, didn't even take a drink of water. He was a hot mess.
In boxing you don't go for the knock put punch unless the opponent gives you an opening. Trump created opportunities and since he was not listening, he failed to see them.
To me he was incoherent and rambled.

Im sure we all see what we wanted to see thru our personal political prism that is why we look for objective views. Those views were not kind to Trump's efforts.
This reminds me of when Palin was unable to deliver.

Briggs, your state is remarkably democratic and you have to doubt that your enclave does not speak for the rest of the CT.

Take a tour through CT there are no hillary signs not one that I have seen in many towns. Shes not going to win CT

Trump Promises Reshoring - While His Own Products Are Made Overseas
by Meagan Parrish

Donald Trump talks the talk about reshoring manufacturing jobs, but doesn’t walk the walk, according to recent analysis.

On the campaign trail as a Republican presidential contender, Trump has often boasted that he’ll make jobs in China, Mexico and Japan reappear on American soil.

“I’m going to bring jobs back to the United States like no one else can,” he said at the end of the recent debate in Detroit.

All the while, he’s blasted companies that manufacture overseas. Early in his campaign, Trump even pledged he’d stop eating Oreo cookies when it was announced some production would be moved to Mexico.

Yet, many of Trump’s own products aren’t made in America. Trump has already taken heat from Marco Rubio and others for the fact that his signature neckties and suits are made in China.

When looking at Trump’s entire network of enterprises, the outsourcing doesn’t stop there.

One Harvard professor and trade expert examined the Ivanka Trump fashion line — touted on Trump’s website as being part of the Trump Empire — which includes dresses, shoes and accessories. All of the 800 items are imported.

Thousands of other items including furniture, kitchen goods and “Trump body soap” are also made by companies who employ foreign workers overseas.

Of course, none of this is shocking in the world of manufacturing. Like many celebrities, Trump sells the use of his name to several companies who manufacture and sell the products, all without Trump’s direct oversight.

The Facts

Trump apparel

The Donald J. Trump Collection includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories.

Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact Virginia found some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as made in South Korea.

Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in USA or both. BuzzFeed ordered a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and ended up with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia.

Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or China. This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico” label.

Manufacturing information online is not always reliable — for example, a photo of one shirt shows a “Made in Bangladesh” label, but the item description says it was made in China. This may be a reflection of the different countries that products sometimes pass through before they are ultimately shipped into the United States.

Trump eyeglasses are made in China. Cufflinks and other accessories do not list the source of manufacturing on Amazon.com.

“Success by Trump,” a cologne in the Trump Fragrance line, was manufactured in the United States, according to PolitiFact Virginia. The Trump campaign’s “Make America Great Again” hats are made at a Southern California factory and are labeled “Proudly Made in USA.”

Trump home items

Trump Home has a range of items, including chandeliers, mirrors, bedding, table lamps, cabinets, sofas, barstools, ****tail tables and more.

Trump expanded the Trump Home brand internationally, including in Turkey. A Trump Organization news release shows it partnered with a global luxury furniture brand, Dorya International, to expand the Trump Home brand to a production facility in Turkey. According to Furniture Today, components of the Trump by Dorya furniture were made in Germany, particularly the brass and stainless pieces.

Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark registration for the Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products were made in India.

The Trump Home by Rogaska tabletop collection featured a crystal and china collection with a company based in Slovenia. Trump bedding comforters are listed as made in USA.

Trump hotel items

Many hotel amenities at Trump’s hotels were manufactured overseas and imported. Trump Hotel pens were made in China or Taiwan, and imported into the United States via South Korea. Shampoo, body wash, moisturizers, shower caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet leashes and bath towels at Trump hotels are all listed as made in China.

Trump beverages

The Trump Natural Spring Water is served at Trump hotels, restaurants and golf clubs. Trump water comes from New York or Vermont, and is bottled in New York.

Trump Vodka was manufactured at a distillery in the Netherlands, supposedly distilled five times from “European wheat,” but the distribution company stopped carrying it in 2010. An Israeli company continued to carry Trump Vodka, although the version sold in Israel is different from the original Trump Vodka. The Trump Vodka produced and sold in Israel is made from ingredients that make it kosher for Passover, which made it a popular beverage around the holidays. But the Jerusalem Post reported that it turned out that not all ingredients actually were kosher for Passover.

Note: There’s a Trump Winery located in Charlottesville, Va., but it is reported to be owned by his son, Eric. The Trump Winery website says its name is a registered trademark of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing, LLC. The winery imports glassware.

The Bottom Line

The Clinton ad claims that “Trump’s products have been made in 12 other countries.” This is correct. We know of at least 12 countries where Trump products were manufactured (China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea). Further, Trump products transited other countries through the packaging and shipping process — meaning workers in more than 12 countries contributed to getting many of Trump’s products made, packaged and delivered to the United States.

This guy is such a hypocrite. On top of the fact that he screamed about illegal immigration but used undocumented workers himself. It's like he has no conscience.

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Trump didn't lose anyone, but he kind of came undone.
She won votes last nite from undecided. Trump supporters like that he "tells it like it is". Its to be expected that if that is your perspective, then he tells it "LIke you want to hear it"!

What we have read is he has trouble staying focused, complete thoughts and listen. He does not wait for the question to be finished. Very telling.
Hillary was prepared, he was not.
There was much both of them could have gone after and there are still two more opportunities.

His surge recently was based on her illness and he used that to question her capacity.
She was cool, didn't even take a drink of water. He was a hot mess.
In boxing you don't go for the knock put punch unless the opponent gives you an opening. Trump created opportunities and since he was not listening, he failed to see them.
To me he was incoherent and rambled.

Im sure we all see what we wanted to see thru our personal political prism that is why we look for objective views. Those views were not kind to Trump's efforts.
This reminds me of when Palin was unable to deliver.

Briggs, your state is remarkably democratic and you have to doubt that your enclave does not speak for the rest of the CT.

Take a tour through CT there are no hillary signs not one that I have seen in many towns. Shes not going to win CT

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/connecticut/

IN my area of North Carolina there is a bias against the Rebublican agenda but IM in a city, which tends to be blue. Rural tends to vote Red.
Our states politics are deplorable in its current state and McCrory is in trouble. Funny thing is HB2 is actually doing him in.
We are a swing state that did vote for Obama and that was a surprise.
We really don't know how this will play out in NC.
I cannot recall in my 30 years living here how few signs are out for either candidate. Obviously CT is different. Obviously your embellishing as to what your seeing and thinking its statewide.
Its one thing to be an object homer with a prism that colors your view, but another to be blind.
If CT goes trump I will send you a fine export box barbeque dinner with all the trimmings.
What if Hillary takes CT? You owe me nothing! I would not want to be seen as taking advantage of a someone with as high as a 90% chance of winning.

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Trump didn't lose anyone, but he kind of came undone.
She won votes last nite from undecided. Trump supporters like that he "tells it like it is". Its to be expected that if that is your perspective, then he tells it "LIke you want to hear it"!

What we have read is he has trouble staying focused, complete thoughts and listen. He does not wait for the question to be finished. Very telling.
Hillary was prepared, he was not.
There was much both of them could have gone after and there are still two more opportunities.

His surge recently was based on her illness and he used that to question her capacity.
She was cool, didn't even take a drink of water. He was a hot mess.
In boxing you don't go for the knock put punch unless the opponent gives you an opening. Trump created opportunities and since he was not listening, he failed to see them.
To me he was incoherent and rambled.

Im sure we all see what we wanted to see thru our personal political prism that is why we look for objective views. Those views were not kind to Trump's efforts.
This reminds me of when Palin was unable to deliver.

Briggs, your state is remarkably democratic and you have to doubt that your enclave does not speak for the rest of the CT.

Take a tour through CT there are no hillary signs not one that I have seen in many towns. Shes not going to win CT

Ill bet you $10,000 that Hillary wins CT and ill give you 2/1 odds.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Trump didn't lose anyone, but he kind of came undone.
She won votes last nite from undecided. Trump supporters like that he "tells it like it is". Its to be expected that if that is your perspective, then he tells it "LIke you want to hear it"!

What we have read is he has trouble staying focused, complete thoughts and listen. He does not wait for the question to be finished. Very telling.
Hillary was prepared, he was not.
There was much both of them could have gone after and there are still two more opportunities.

His surge recently was based on her illness and he used that to question her capacity.
She was cool, didn't even take a drink of water. He was a hot mess.
In boxing you don't go for the knock put punch unless the opponent gives you an opening. Trump created opportunities and since he was not listening, he failed to see them.
To me he was incoherent and rambled.

Im sure we all see what we wanted to see thru our personal political prism that is why we look for objective views. Those views were not kind to Trump's efforts.
This reminds me of when Palin was unable to deliver.

Briggs, your state is remarkably democratic and you have to doubt that your enclave does not speak for the rest of the CT.

Take a tour through CT there are no hillary signs not one that I have seen in many towns. Shes not going to win CT

You're going by street signs? Have you looked at every street in the state?! Or at least made sure the streets you looked at were representative of the whole state in terms of all relevant demographics?
The only recent poll was by Emerson University. It had Hillary at 50 and Trump at 35 in CT.

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Connecticut: Trump vs. Clinton | 4-Way (Johnson & Stein) | Senate: Carter vs. Blumenthal
Polling Data
Poll	Date	Sample	MoE	
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Trump (R)
	Spread
Emerson*	9/2 - 9/5	1000 LV	3.0	50	35	Clinton +15
Quinnipiac	6/1 - 6/5	1330 RV	2.7	45	38	Clinton +7
Emerson	        4/10 - 4/11	1043 LV	3.0	48	40	Clinton +8
Quinnipiac	10/7 - 10/11	1735 RV	2.4	47	40	Clinton +7

Yeah, I went to RCP. The other 3 polls are a bit old. The bottom one is from 2015.

True..Nice to see the trend tho...