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11/24/2020  8:20 AM
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smackeddog wrote:Looking like another vaccine! So that's hopefully 3 so far. The great thing about the Oxford one is that's it's being sold on a not for profit basis, and costs a lot less than the the Pizer and Moderna one, and doesn't have to be stored at such low temps, making it much more viable for poorer countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/23/vaccine-brings-us-a-step-closer-to-ending-covid-says-oxford-scientist

My biggest fear is that most people are going to refuse to take it. There was a point where everyone I asked said they wouldn’t take it.

It’s a delicate subject because while the situation still seems critical so taking it is almost a no-brainer, the lack of trust in the rushed process to develop and test it make any doubt reasonable.

We definitely need it and I really hope the best and safest version is the one they get out and to as many people as possible. The Oxford one seems very promising, especially for most places in the world that may not be able to store vaccines at such low temperatures as others.

I think they definitely need to start a campaign to make people feel more secure about taking the vaccine. Make very clear how they prepared it, how much has it been tested and how secure it is when it’s available to the public. I don’t think the campaign to wear masks was done effectively which made others go against it, no matter how illogical doing that was.

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11/24/2020  3:27 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Looking like another vaccine! So that's hopefully 3 so far. The great thing about the Oxford one is that's it's being sold on a not for profit basis, and costs a lot less than the the Pizer and Moderna one, and doesn't have to be stored at such low temps, making it much more viable for poorer countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/23/vaccine-brings-us-a-step-closer-to-ending-covid-says-oxford-scientist

My biggest fear is that most people are going to refuse to take it. There was a point where everyone I asked said they wouldn’t take it.

To me that’s fine, that’s their choice, that’s their consequences. I think enough people will take one especially if it means easier travel abroad, gigs, events etc

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11/30/2020  9:52 AM
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12/2/2020  6:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/2/2020  6:20 AM
Apparently Mo Bamba is the rare athlete to suffer from long term Symptoms from his infection in June or July. His coach said he is still not close to a return.

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12/2/2020  7:25 AM
Clean wrote:

I wonder if they got as many minority candidates as they initially wanted. I know that was a tall hurdle.

“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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12/2/2020  4:49 PM
Clean wrote:Apparently Mo Bamba is the rare athlete to suffer from long term Symptoms from his infection in June or July. His coach said he is still not close to a return.

I was worried about this- think a small study found lung damage in some people suffering from some long COVID symptoms like breathlessness, think they’re planning a bigger study to look into it.

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12/2/2020  10:21 PM
So we are just about on 9/11 deaths daily and Trump and the administration are barely doing ANYTHING

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12/3/2020  5:40 AM
martin wrote:So we are just about on 9/11 deaths daily and Trump and the administration are barely doing ANYTHING

It's so bizarre how invisible these deaths have been kept- we're looking at, what 400,000 deaths by January/February? That's absolutely horrific, but it seems to have been kept completely our of sight- it's surreal

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12/3/2020  10:51 AM
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:So we are just about on 9/11 deaths daily and Trump and the administration are barely doing ANYTHING

It's so bizarre how invisible these deaths have been kept- we're looking at, what 400,000 deaths by January/February? That's absolutely horrific, but it seems to have been kept completely our of sight- it's surreal

Yup

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12/4/2020  11:03 PM
Where’s the money for the people!!!!!!
All of these hard workers through Covid are eligible for 1200 each. They EARNED that money— where is it!!!!!
Fock all of these people in government. They are all self serving slobs. Give the hard working people their f money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12/4/2020  11:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Where’s the money for the people!!!!!!
All of these hard workers through Covid are eligible for 1200 each. They EARNED that money— where is it!!!!!
Fock all of these people in government. They are all self serving slobs. Give the hard working people their f money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here’s the order of the problem:

McConnell
Trump
Generic Republican Senators

When you stop voting and supporting them, then the problems will go away

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12/4/2020  11:31 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Where’s the money for the people!!!!!!
All of these hard workers through Covid are eligible for 1200 each. They EARNED that money— where is it!!!!!
Fock all of these people in government. They are all self serving slobs. Give the hard working people their f money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here’s the order of the problem:

McConnell
Trump
Generic Republican Senators

When you stop voting and supporting them, then the problems will go away

January 5th. Big day.

“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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12/5/2020  12:24 AM
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12/5/2020  7:50 AM
martin wrote:Reminder

With that being said...I am not sure why those GOP senators on the bubble all won their re-elections...Graham...Tillis....Ernst....Collins...etc

They should have been defeated.....because this grinding the gears of government for political purposes has to end..

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12/5/2020  1:39 PM
Clean wrote:

The U.S. has suffered because Trump didn't want to do the "heavy lifting," so he put everything on the states, and pinned all his hope on therapeutic cures or vaccines, while he downplayed the deaths. He also gave the GOP governors of certain states tacit approval to downplay the disease, while also inciting supporters to confront and disobey those governors trying to do the right thing, no matter how painful they were.

Trump didn't want to use his "political capital" trying to encourage his people to do things he knew they didn't want to do...Add to this the cynicism we discovered when it was reported Kushner (w/ Trump's approval, I would assume) scrapped early plans to address Covid because at the time only "blue" states were hot spots.

I look at the world and U.S. Covid numbers every day, and it's truly embarrassing to see how our states and the nation are doing.

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12/5/2020  6:06 PM
Clean wrote:

Glad Australia did the right thing! Fingers crossed it holds up two weeks from now...

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12/5/2020  9:20 PM
Clean wrote:

Lucky.

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12/6/2020  5:02 AM
Clean wrote:

I went to Australia last year- I really liked Sydney, very nice city, who knows when/if I can visit it again.

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12/6/2020  8:46 AM
jskinny35 wrote:
Clean wrote:

Glad Australia did the right thing! Fingers crossed it holds up two weeks from now...


They should be fine. They masked up and social distanced the virus away. They also have a hard rule that any travelers must quarantine for 2 weeks before they are released to the general public. So once they took care of all the Covid they had they also made it impossible for travelers to bring it to AUS. Very smart.
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