Nalod wrote:Shump is a good role player. We needed more from him.

A guy like Shump won't be appreciated until he gets in a situation where his defense changes the game..That happens in the playoffs..We need defenders and they don't grow on trees..

WaltLongmire wrote:You look at where his game is now and you realize that he is another guy who did not progress the way you thought he could.

I'll make a case and say he is a guard version of WCS (I'll have to post this elsewhere to annoy the Steinboy Alliance).

We knew about his D when we got him, but thought his offensive game would come around, and that he might even be able to play some PG at times as his game matured. Another guy drafted on potential, although he had shown more on the offensive end and had more responsibility in college than Stein has ever been given.

Don't see how you could pick Shump in the middle of the 1st knowing what you now know about his game.

the difference being that a guard needs his offense to come around.

Tyson, Deandre, Tristan, Camby ... their offenses never came around.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:You look at where his game is now and you realize that he is another guy who did not progress the way you thought he could.

I'll make a case and say he is a guard version of WCS (I'll have to post this elsewhere to annoy the Steinboy Alliance).

We knew about his D when we got him, but thought his offensive game would come around, and that he might even be able to play some PG at times as his game matured. Another guy drafted on potential, although he had shown more on the offensive end and had more responsibility in college than Stein has ever been given.

Don't see how you could pick Shump in the middle of the 1st knowing what you now know about his game.

the difference being that a guard needs his offense to come around.

Tyson, Deandre, Tristan, Camby ... their offenses never came around.

You can sometimes hide players with limited skills if you have a lot of scorers around them. Jordan has the perfect situation, as both Paul and Blake are great passers who always seem to find Jordan.

You also need the right team and the right system.

Tyson and Jordan have done well with the right PGs and sytems, Camby had moves in the post- I would not say that his offense never came around, Thompson is clueless on the offensive end. If I put these 4 up to the Popovich challenge-Would he want them starting on the Spurs along Duncan?- I would say Camby might be the only one he would really want in his kind of motion offense. (But then I'm making this question up.)

BRIGGS wrote:Since Curry took that big shot--he hasnt been the same player.

Confidence is a terrible thing to lose for a shooter.