Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by VDesai:

I read a rumor about an Ohlendorf for Damaso Marte swap? That would help a lot- cheaper option than Fuentes and a pretty good reliever in his own right.

Ugh! The last thing Cashman needs to focus on is more bullpen help.

we need a lefty setup man & Marte is a good one... COL wants Ian Kennedy for Fuentes... if Cashman can get Marte for Ohlendorff it's a no brainer... Ohly's young & got a live arm but he's struggled this season bigtime... we have young righty relievers that can take his place in the pen down the road, but we don't have many lefty prospects.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-15-2008 07:44 AM]

We need a lefty reliever? Based on what? Our bullpen ERA is 3.47. Maybe if we're trying to construct the perfect roster, we need that, but there are too many glaring weaknesses to worry about perfecting an already very good bullpen. How many more games do you think we would have won if we had a lefty reliever this year? They need to focus on a 5th starter and a better hitting CFer if they want to make the playoffs--maybe a 4th starter too, depending on what happens with Ponson. We really need much more production from 2nd base but I wouldn't give up on Cano right now. Even if he's terrible all season, I'll still stick with him for next season.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-15-2008 10:56 AM]

based... on... the fact that we don't have a lefty reliever???

ur not making any sense right now... if Cashman can add a quality lefty arm to the pen, something we don't currently have, for a prospect that's expendable, he should do it.

this isn't a move that will prevent him from making others... what's the problem?

because Ohlendorff is not likely going to appeal to teams willing to trade away any upgrades at CF... who exactly do u think we can get for him anyway? there aren't exactly a plethora of good CFers available to us in any trades & if there were it would take more than Ohlendorff to get them... the only guy i can possibly think of is someone like Aaron Rowand & for him i don't think a package of Melky & Ohly is gonna get it done.

i don't even think the PIT trade has much of a chance of going down to be honest, we've been in discussions for Marte before & they asked for some of our top prospects in the past.

I like what I saw tonight in the first game back from the break. First off Moose deserves credit - I was never a real big fan but he gets a lot of credit from me for reinventing himself as a pitcher. He really reminds me of Greg Maddux now - really spotting the 2-seamer now, running it just off the plate trying to catch corners just like Maddux used to do. Very interesting because he never pitched like that. And along with his assortment of still-effective breaking pitches, suddenly it looks like has enough to continue competing at a high level, whereas last year at this time I though he was finished...

And I love the addition of Richie Sexson. Hasn't really been himself the last season and a half for whatever reason, but we're talking a major power hitter here that we just added for nothing! 45 HRs in 2001 and 2003, 39 in 2005, 34 in 2006. Big righthanded presence we've been missing, always bashes lefthanders. Perfect addition to the lineup. Zero risk, very high reward. Great move by Cashman...

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/07/17/sports/pirates/doc488010257fdda415779793.txt

Huntington drives hard bargain

By John Perrotto
Times Sports Staff
Published: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:52 PM EDT
Part of the identity Neal Huntington forged during his first offseason as the Pittsburgh Pirates’ general manager last winter is that he will not make a deal if he is not certain it will help his club.

That has not changed during his first full season on the job. The Pirates have plenty of players that contending teams are interested in, but Huntington is driving a hard bargain.

According to various industry sources this week, the Pirates want two high-level young players and a second-tier prospect in any trade for left fielder Jason Bay and at least one top youngster and one solid prospect in return for right fielder Xavier Nady, shortstop Jack Wilson and left-handed relievers John Grabow and Damaso Marte.

ridiculous.

girardi has to stop babying joba. guy wasn't even at 100 pitches and he comes out after 6, what is up with that?

hopefully the yankees can prevail here, they should've won this game 2-1 god damn.

girardi takes joba out too early, he puts in molina too late. NOW HES PINCH HITTING, replacing the giambino with richie sexson is this a joke?????

well, they showed a lotta heart & won that game even after a huge baserunning blunder by the rook Christian... 6 games behind the Rays in the loss column.

Andy P has been pretty vicious of late.

looks like the Yankees might be increasing their interest in acquiring Xavier Nady possibly in a package w/either Marte or Grabow.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/1216529729323770.xml&coll=1