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MS
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7/3/2007  9:47 AM
I don't want to say it's easy being a gm, but if every fan can put together a list of cancer players to stay away from, and players that aren't worth the risk.

Curry
Zach
Jalen Rose
Steve Francis
Jerome James
Tim Thomas
Mo Taylor

Would be on just about every list, it is downwright scary the lack of vision this man possessess
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knicksbabyyeah
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7/4/2007  10:41 AM
Don't forget Greg Ostertag's "comeback", just say NO!!!
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7/4/2007  10:51 AM
We're lucky we got Curry at the price paid.
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7/4/2007  11:07 AM
Yeah, I thought we should have given up at least four lottery picks for our 2 way stud center

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-04-2007 11:08 AM]
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7/4/2007  11:09 AM
The only problem with what was given up is the risk that they would have had to have given up Oden. That was dumb.

That aside, it turned out well.
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7/4/2007  12:44 PM
I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?
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7/5/2007  1:47 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

if we had a well-run organization

i wonder what that feels like.
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7/5/2007  2:10 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
Bobby
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7/5/2007  2:33 AM
dj....your 2005 no thanks list has exposed your true identity. you now join a select group of true knick fans aka the anti-knicks.

please continue to enlighten us....you are, of course, in control of the horizontal and the vertical
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7/5/2007  8:01 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.
Bonn1997
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7/5/2007  8:15 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]
Panos
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7/5/2007  9:39 AM
DJ - please update your list with non-Knick players so that we know who will be on the team in 2 years. Thanks...
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7/5/2007  9:59 AM
Posted by Panos:

DJ - please update your list with non-Knick players so that we know who will be on the team in 2 years. Thanks...

i'm going to have to make a list of guys like "kobe, ok4, dwight, lebron, melo, and durant" - that way, at least 3 of them will be knicks.
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7/5/2007  9:59 AM
SWEET!
TMS
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7/5/2007  10:07 AM
if we do an updated list, can we add Rashard Lewis to the list? there's no way he's worth that max contract he's going to sign w/ORL... guess that means he's got a good shot of ending up here next season
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7/5/2007  11:53 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]

So we would have targeted the 5th or 6th slot in order to get Oden/Durant. Not tried for the 1st or second slot? Sure that sounds reasonable.

So lets take out flukes in this years draft slotting which cant be counted on and look at what happened with the 5th and 6th picks

Boston trades the 5th pick for a 32 year old highly paid Ray Allen
Milwaukee takes a skinny far from ready YI who doesnt even want to play for them.

How is that better than a 24 year old center that led the NBA in points in the paint?

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-05-2007 11:54 AM]
Panos
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7/5/2007  11:58 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]

So we would have targeted the 5th or 6th slot in order to get Oden/Durant. Not tried for the 1st or second slot? Sure that sounds reasonable.

So lets take out flukes in this years draft slotting which cant be counted on and look at what happened with the 5th and 6th picks

Boston trades the 5th pick for a 32 year old highly paid Ray Allen
Milwaukee takes a skinny far from ready YI who doesnt even want to play for them.

How is that better than a 24 year old center that led the NBA in points in the paint?

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-05-2007 11:54 AM]


It is not infrequent that the top pick goes to a team that is not the worst in the league.
Check the numbers.


[Edited by - panos on 05-07-2007 1:00 PM]
Bonn1997
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7/5/2007  12:24 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]

So we would have targeted the 5th or 6th slot in order to get Oden/Durant. Not tried for the 1st or second slot? Sure that sounds reasonable.

So lets take out flukes in this years draft slotting which cant be counted on and look at what happened with the 5th and 6th picks

Boston trades the 5th pick for a 32 year old highly paid Ray Allen
Milwaukee takes a skinny far from ready YI who doesnt even want to play for them.

How is that better than a 24 year old center that led the NBA in points in the paint?

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-05-2007 11:54 AM]

Targeted the 5th or 6th slot? No, don't be silly.
Had a very good shot of landing the 5th or 6th shot? Yes.
COSSUCKS
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7/5/2007  1:39 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]

So we would have targeted the 5th or 6th slot in order to get Oden/Durant. Not tried for the 1st or second slot? Sure that sounds reasonable.

So lets take out flukes in this years draft slotting which cant be counted on and look at what happened with the 5th and 6th picks

Boston trades the 5th pick for a 32 year old highly paid Ray Allen
Milwaukee takes a skinny far from ready YI who doesnt even want to play for them.

How is that better than a 24 year old center that led the NBA in points in the paint?

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-05-2007 11:54 AM]


It is not infrequent that the top pick goes to a team that is not the worst in the league.
Check the numbers.


[Edited by - panos on 05-07-2007 1:00 PM]

You are right. The problem is the odds are about 75 to 1 unless you get to have every single slot in the draft that isnt #1 or #2
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7/5/2007  1:40 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I disagree with your assumption but do you not think that if we had a well-run organization with our draft pick, we would have let Marbury sit and let the kids play more and probably would have had around the 5th or 6th slot and had a very good chance at Oden or Durant?

Whats a very good shot at Oden or Durrant? Like Boston had? Or like Memphis had?

How well did those very good shots work out?
See bold. We wouldn't have been bad enough to end up where Boston or Memphis was.

Oh, I meant 5th or 6th slot in the draft lottery. Maybe you didn't know what I meant by that. Otherwise, I can't understand your post.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 07-05-2007 08:15 AM]

So we would have targeted the 5th or 6th slot in order to get Oden/Durant. Not tried for the 1st or second slot? Sure that sounds reasonable.

So lets take out flukes in this years draft slotting which cant be counted on and look at what happened with the 5th and 6th picks

Boston trades the 5th pick for a 32 year old highly paid Ray Allen
Milwaukee takes a skinny far from ready YI who doesnt even want to play for them.

How is that better than a 24 year old center that led the NBA in points in the paint?

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-05-2007 11:54 AM]

Targeted the 5th or 6th slot? No, don't be silly.
Had a very good shot of landing the 5th or 6th shot? Yes.

OK we have the 6th slot and odds are we draft #6.
Now what? There is no player at #6 that is more dominant than a 24 year old Curry
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