A) Kidd wants to get paid more regardless of where he ends up
B) Mavs don't want to let him go, especially to NYK, but don't want to cave on money or their demands for compensation
C) Knicks aren't gonna give away the house and know they have time on their hands as they are the only ones out there looking and are willing to wait as long as needed to pay a price they are comfortable with

Meanwhile the Knicks will run interviews, express interest in others and kee a process going to gain negotiation leverage, learn about the field and have alternative plans. Maybe someone wows them and they decide he is their guy.

VDesai wrote:Think its reasonable to believe that the Knicks and Kidd likely want each other, but its a slow moving and delicate situation because:

A) Kidd wants to get paid more regardless of where he ends up
B) Mavs don't want to let him go, especially to NYK, but don't want to cave on money or their demands for compensation
C) Knicks aren't gonna give away the house and know they have time on their hands as they are the only ones out there looking and are willing to wait as long as needed to pay a price they are comfortable with

Meanwhile the Knicks will run interviews, express interest in others and kee a process going to gain negotiation leverage, learn about the field and have alternative plans. Maybe someone wows them and they decide he is their guy.

D) The Knicks can offer a future FRP after the draft?

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

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Borrego has a combined head coaching record of 148-183 in five seasons with the Magic (2014-15) and Hornets (2018-2022).

Oh, that was totally worth firing Thibs for. We should have done this sooner!

Pano's, who you in favor of hiring? Do you have a front runner?

Rookie wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

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Borrego has a combined head coaching record of 148-183 in five seasons with the Magic (2014-15) and Hornets (2018-2022).

Oh, that was totally worth firing Thibs for. We should have done this sooner!

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Insert anti Thibs crowd excuses here………

fitzfarm wrote:

Rookie wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

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Borrego has a combined head coaching record of 148-183 in five seasons with the Magic (2014-15) and Hornets (2018-2022).

Oh, that was totally worth firing Thibs for. We should have done this sooner!

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Don’t forget those rosters borrego coached were trash… whats impressive to me is that he got to the play in a few times with a trash roster … look at some the the HOF coaches we had that looked like trash, it wasn’t there fault as a coach you can only go as far as your roster’s talent can take you. I know this is not a popular view, but I would love to see mike d'antoni get a interview with this roster. Look what he did for Steve Nash‘s career and then he came here and had Chris freaking duhon as his starting point guard, look what he did with a very average player in Lin …. I think he would take brunson’s game to a whole new level.

Would you say their draft picks developed under his tutelage?

With all said I don’t think borrego will be hired … but I also don’t think he can be properly evaluated on his record with the rosters he had to work with.

Now ask, is he a better coach having learned from experience? Im not saying we hire him or should. But sometimes you get a Sam Presti as your boss and really good picks, and sometimes you get crumbling Kemba and Gordan Haywood eating cap, with Malik Monk, Rozier, and Willy Hernangomez, then get Lamelo who is an idiot and often injured, etc.
Also Miles Bridges and the noise he bought. Not all at once mind you. In different years. Add the team owner is head strong and Mitch Kupchak is also not able to do his thing because of it. So perhaps you get a great coach but just did not have the players. Context.

Your not hiring a flawless coach. They all have warts or no head coach experience.

fitzfarm wrote:

Rookie wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/sny_knicks/status/1938002613179433357

Borrego has a combined head coaching record of 148-183 in five seasons with the Magic (2014-15) and Hornets (2018-2022).

Oh, that was totally worth firing Thibs for. We should have done this sooner!

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Don’t forget those rosters borrego coached were trash… whats impressive to me is that he got to the play in a few times with a trash roster … look at some the the HOF coaches we had that looked like trash, it wasn’t there fault as a coach you can only go as far as your roster’s talent can take you. I know this is not a popular view, but I would love to see mike d'antoni get a interview with this roster. Look what he did for Steve Nash‘s career and then he came here and had Chris freaking duhon as his starting point guard, look what he did with a very average player in Lin …. I think he would take brunson’s game to a whole new level.

MDA would be top choice for Brunson and Towns absolutely

Nalod wrote:Lets look at this with Neutrality.
The darling wunderkind assistants are the so desired by some. They come from great programs and were promoted by some great talents having assisted them.
Borrego won with Pop.
Often these guys are hired to build a young team and given years to do so.
Sometimes they are promised things and the team does not deliver.
HIs manner, analytics, etc. Does not matter to causal fan as they dismissed based on the record only.
Jenkins did great. Then it turned to **** as Jah did. What happend? Alot. Its easier to change coach then players.
Borrego? Jordan ownership was erratic? I'd look at his roster he was given. Remember young coaches don't get leverage for input.

Now ask, is he a better coach having learned from experience? Im not saying we hire him or should. But sometimes you get a Sam Presti as your boss and really good picks, and sometimes you get crumbling Kemba and Gordan Haywood eating cap, with Malik Monk, Rozier, and Willy Hernangomez, then get Lamelo who is an idiot and often injured, etc.
Also Miles Bridges and the noise he bought. Not all at once mind you. In different years. Add the team owner is head strong and Mitch Kupchak is also not able to do his thing because of it. So perhaps you get a great coach but just did not have the players. Context.

Your not hiring a flawless coach. They all have warts or no head coach experience.

All this misses the point.
We are not a young team looking for the right developmental coach. Or a team looking for a coach with decent attributes.
Either Rose felt Thibs was not good enough and did not have the chip experienced to get our “win now” team to a chip. (So why hire a guy whose historical data leads no one to believe that he does.) Or this was a knee jerk Dolan move that was made without much thought to the alternative.