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martin
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8/2/2024 12:02 PM
Feel the difference, choose wisely
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
8/6/2024 10:52 AM LAST EDITED: 8/6/2024 10:54 AM
Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years.
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22402 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
8/6/2024 12:25 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Walz is a team player and won't be accused of trying to steal Kamala's shine. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
8/6/2024 2:05 PM
gradyandrew wrote:he's actually a real public servant who like wants the country to be better for the people who live in itGustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Philc1
Posts: 28271 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
8/7/2024 10:14 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Walz is a liberal by today’s radical right standards but his “liberal” positions are fairly common sense. Free school breakfasts and lunches for kids?(they have that in conservative Texas) |
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 10:25 AM
Yeah it was close but I think he got my vote
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 10:26 AM
Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Yeah I agree with this. I have zero clue what anyone refers to as a centrist and it's different for everyone. I think that term is meaningless TBH Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Philc1
Posts: 28271 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
8/7/2024 10:29 AM
martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. A centrist is someone who was a republican before trump |
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 10:31 AM
Philc1 wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Right, and before that they were actually what non-progressive Dems are today. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
8/7/2024 10:39 AM
martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. More Wall Street friendly on the economy, more liberal on social issues. |
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 10:41 AM
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Where is the starting point? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
8/7/2024 10:47 AM
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Thats a good question. I'd say to the right of AOC. |
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 10:54 AM
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. The United States needs to move the conversation beyond Left, Center, Right. If a regulation is not working for America particularly well, I don't know one person who wouldn't want that regulation taken away. If there is something that helps the economy, I don't know why we wouldn't vote for that regulation. The conversation should be about what moves us forward, not the label stuff. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
8/7/2024 11:03 AM
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. Agree. This might have helped sink Kelly with Labor. He changed his tune after he was on the VP short list. I dont believe there are hard and fast rules for what defines a centrist, but this might be a tell.. Only 3 Democrats refused to sign on to the Pro Act, one of whom was Mark Kelly," Bensinger said on Sunday, after Harris announced her candidacy. "The right to organize unions is the most important thing to labor so that's a hard no." The problem is that the GOP has moved so far to the right over the last 25 years or so, that people who were once considered centrist are now considered left to far left. The GOPs neverending stampede to the right has redefined what it means to be part of the center. |
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martin
Posts: 75970 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/7/2024 11:17 AM
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. It's possible but there are like 1000 things that are brought to the table from each candidate, positive and not so positive. Pinpointing to anything is not really substantial. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
8/7/2024 11:25 AM
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Im surprised Harris chose Walz, thought she would pick more of a centrist. But reading this interview gives me idea an of one of the reasons....messaging. Democrats have been piss poor at messaging for years. As I said, there are no hard and fast rules. |