CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

“All your friends are MAGA “ equals half the country?
Halt the population being republican is probable.
How many will get tired of the MAGA right is the question.
Btw, Always said 95% of the population is ignorant.

Do you believe old school republicans when they say the MAGA/Far right do not represent traditional conservative republicans? I know a lot of those.

martin wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

Nalod wrote:Inflation started from the pandemic and the financial hand outs were under the Trump admin.
High gas prices? They were low, then went high. Global supply and demand. WE don't have state owned oil companies.
Trump did not fix border issues. Its a humanity crisis and its global.
Sexuality in schools? Implanted? thats on the commnity school systems, not federal.
Your daughter gets raped, well tough luck if Vance has his way, she gonna carry her rapist baby daddy to term. You daughter gets preganant, has an issue, she cannot determine her fate. or her husband. or her father. Nope, the state does.
LBGT were it don't belong? "all men are created equal". DO you understand how little that is as a % of our population?
Your kids won't be gay because LBGT have rights.
These are not issues for the executive branch. They are issues to plug you in and make you vote.
Trump did not fix these things in his term.
Biden did not create inflation, and politicians don't fix it. Its the economy.
Trump wanted to get rid of "Obama care'>> funny thing is people like the Affordable care act. He never could tell us a better alternative.
Trump told you Obama was not an American citizen, Hilary was guilty, Drink bleach to kill Covid, women like to be grabbed by the *****, and he is quite fond of Putin.

. Those are your opinions are you’re entitled to them just like I’m entitled to mine and won’t budge.

MaddogSharp, those are mostly just commonly accepted things. You aren't operating in the real world.

MaddogSharp wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

. Good Post! Unfortunately even Biden called “MAGA or trump supporters a great threat to democracy” so like you said that’s calling out half the country. I don’t consider myself maga or a trumper I’m just a conservative. I don’t like inflation, huge gas prices, the worst border security or lack there of in our history, and most importantly a father what they’re doing in schools by implanted sexuality and LGBT stuff where it doesn’t belong. So that’s why I’m on the side I am and I stand firm. Like I say I may disagree politically but that won’t impact how I think of you as a person. As long as you’re a good person who gives me respect I will give you even more respect

Real question, have you ever taken a economic class?
Not being facetious, just want to know what to cover.
Can we cover one at a time?
Inflation/gas prices:
Inflation is caused by supply and demand. Lending rates, national and world economies.
Recent supply issues after a pandemic. Tariffs on goods from large producers of inexpensive goods.

Feel that the same people that complain about inflation complain about higher interest rates. Not realizing that is the best way to curtail demand. So you can’t complain about mortgage rates and inflation.
Many were behind Trump increasing trade fees on China. Yet they are the same ones unwilling to pay extra to do so. Many blame the President for high oil prices, not the conglomerate monopolies that are oil companies. Many of which are headed by major republican backers. Or do you forget how much Trump favors oil companies? Same people that complain about gas prices, are the first to agree with the lobbyist looking to keep things status quo and fight every alternative fuel source. Ie. electric cars, windmills. You fall for the propaganda while complaining about gas prices. You ever notice that most Trump Flag flyers have the biggest gas eating trucks? Most Midwest and southern red states have at least 2 in every household. But yeah it’s the Dems in Dem cities. Ones who use public transportation and back alternative fuel source transportation.

homeskillitprigioni wrote:I don't care that someone's a Conservative. I'm not, I lean left but I don't love any politician and have a lot of issues with the Democrat party.

I think that's the part I don't get, is this idolization/worship of Trump. It's weird. I guess it kind of makes sense because people on the Right are more religious and tend to do that anyway, but I can't imagine ever being completely infatuated with someone in politics.

Logic has left the building. It’s all about who opposes your favorite team.
Agree about MAGA and religion. It is at cult level.

I also agree, no reason we should have these two as the best possible choices to lead the greatest country in the world.

MaddogSharp wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

. Good Post! Unfortunately even Biden called “MAGA or trump supporters a great threat to democracy” so like you said that’s calling out half the country. I don’t consider myself maga or a trumper I’m just a conservative. I don’t like inflation, huge gas prices, the worst border security or lack there of in our history, and most importantly a father what they’re doing in schools by implanted sexuality and LGBT stuff where it doesn’t belong. So that’s why I’m on the side I am and I stand firm. Like I say I may disagree politically but that won’t impact how I think of you as a person. As long as you’re a good person who gives me respect I will give you even more respect

This proves what I said before. MAGA claim the conservative label when all they are really doing is hiding their many intolerant. In this case homophobia.
The party of freedom of religion, don’t tread on me, don’t tell me how many guns I can have wants to control everyone else’s views? What ever happened to separation of church and state?

MaddogSharp wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

. Good Post! Unfortunately even Biden called “MAGA or trump supporters a great threat to democracy” so like you said that’s calling out half the country. I don’t consider myself maga or a trumper I’m just a conservative. I don’t like inflation, huge gas prices, the worst border security or lack there of in our history, and most importantly a father what they’re doing in schools by implanted sexuality and LGBT stuff where it doesn’t belong. So that’s why I’m on the side I am and I stand firm. Like I say I may disagree politically but that won’t impact how I think of you as a person. As long as you’re a good person who gives me respect I will give you even more respect

But you do know you're on the side that says "I believe homosexuality is a sin so therefore, YOU shouldn't be able to get married because of my beliefs". That's just one example, but I don't see how someone can look at that and say "we're the party of freedom!" No, you're the party of the freedoms you personally want and that restricts that of others by law that you disagree with.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wife-attacks-maga-trump-running-mate-1926194

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

“All your friends are MAGA “ equals half the country?
Halt the population being republican is probable.
How many will get tired of the MAGA right is the question.
Btw, Always said 95% of the population is ignorant.

Do you believe old school republicans when they say the MAGA/Far right do not represent traditional conservative republicans? I know a lot of those.

Is it anyway to start a conversation with a fake quote? I never said “friends“ – I said “the Trump supporters I know.” You actually made up a quote.

Anyway, the constant gaslighting of Trump supporters has blown up in the faces of those doing it. Trump supporters got tired of it and (online anyway), just remained quiet. But now you can see the polls. They got tired of the lies of being called: insurrectionists, violent, extreme right wing, homophobic, racist, Russia Russia Russia, etc.

Congratulations to (those of you) who did your part to put DJT back into power.

You mentioned you talked to some people. You stretched that to equate to half the country. You are offended by someone using the term "friends" instead of just people you talked to?

What am I missing? Or did you talk to rando's and just assumed that meant half the world?

I just want to go to work, post on this board about the Knicks, and not think about some nut job radicals that want to destroy this country.

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

MaddogSharp wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:"Make American Great Again" when asked by some are times in history that included political assassinations.
There would have been great irony had Trump not survived.
Im baffled by the "Blame the Media" rhetoric. Did Media buy a gun? Did Media pull the trigger?
Trump is truly "bulletproof".
He wants to get rid of the IRS that is after him?
Trump is the classic rich kid bully. How the struggling white lower masses came to love this guy is incredible.

Trump and the many behind the scenes that prop him up knew something quite basic.
First, there are many that feel minorities are all uneducated, criminals. Many who have Nazi views. Many who feel women are no equals.
Second, they knew that most uneducated people struggling like to blame others for their plight.
Third, when all fails, pretend you are committed to religion.
The MAGA movement has done a great job amplifying those points to grab its base.
Trump learned from David Duke. Who tried to dress up the racist foundation of his platform. There are many out there, unfortunately, who have racist undertones. MAGA just needed to bring along the ones on the fence.

Some MAGA saying Trump represent conservative values is par for the course. Since it would be hard for them to state the true reasons without reproach on a NY forum.

The hypocrisy with MAGA runs deep. Christians standing by Trump despite Trump being the farthest from Christ like. Pornstars, seeing no reason to help those in need, making fun of others.

One of the biggest fears for me when Trump got elected was the division he would create. It’s here.
Problem is, too many clones have been created who see the playbook. Breed hate and take advantage of the tones mentioned above in many. Regardless if Trump is around, this is here to stay for a long long time now.

Thankful the shooter missed. Can only imagine the strengthening of the movement if Trump was made a martyr.

. The shooter didn’t miss unfortunately. An innocent man lost his life.

You are right. Feel horrible for him and his family.
Another case of mentally ill having access to forearms.
Saw how the kid was heavily bullied in school. Which is pretty common nowadays with all the ones who have made it acceptable in the media and politics. All who are role models.

Shooter missing should have been shooter missed Trump. As I thought “martyr” comment suggested.

. No matter your feelings about Trump you should be happy he missed Trump just on a human level not because it would make him a martyr. Look I think Biden and Obama have done horrendous damage as Presidents but if they same thing happened to one of them I would be happy they survived because they are still people and I feel it would’ve been horrific as a nation

You are doing what I feel have been programmed to do by the far right (MAGA). Which is what I said I feared the most. You assumed that I only wanted Trump to survive not because he is a human being but ONLY so he would not become a martyr? Divisive propaganda and hate speech teaches us to see the worst in others. Saying I am glad he missed Trump because one of the probable outcomes is that the part of his base that are far right and conspiracy centered would have gone to a new hate level once they had their martyr.

Typical when you talk to people today who have lost all sense of logic or discourse. They look to attack any possible difference instead of listening and finding common ground. Which is what the far right playbook has become.

Btw, you said you were a traditional conservative? I remember Reagan’s speech about the Berlin Wall.
Did you ever hear it? Think that was what conservatives were.
And can you tell me how the country is so bad today? Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at all time lows, the value of our houses are at all time highs. Most educated people that I know, are living extremely well. Most small cities have grown and prospered. You don’t see many “up and coming” areas anymore. They all came.
But if you list them maybe we can have a convo about each one.
Really want to know what you feel Obama and Biden did so bad?

For clarity, all the Trump supporters I know are MAGA. That is half the Country, give or take.
You think half the Country is far right? Seems way extreme.

“All your friends are MAGA “ equals half the country?
Halt the population being republican is probable.
How many will get tired of the MAGA right is the question.
Btw, Always said 95% of the population is ignorant.

Do you believe old school republicans when they say the MAGA/Far right do not represent traditional conservative republicans? I know a lot of those.

Is it anyway to start a conversation with a fake quote? I never said “friends“ – I said “the Trump supporters I know.” You actually made up a quote.

Anyway, the constant gaslighting of Trump supporters has blown up in the faces of those doing it. Trump supporters got tired of it and (online anyway), just remained quiet. But now you can see the polls. They got tired of the lies of being called: insurrectionists, violent, extreme right wing, homophobic, racist, Russia Russia Russia, etc.

Congratulations to (those of you) who did your part to put DJT back into power.

I'm sorry but do you really believe what you are typing? The polls concerning how people feel about Trump have remained the same pretty much over the past 8 years. People have chosen their sides and are sticking to that. The thing that has recently changed has been the polls about Biden. The Dems are currently eating their own based on his Debate performance.

PS - Trump supporters did not remain silent. The left is just as tired of constantly being called snowflakes, commies, marxists, DEI, un-American, Groomers, Cucks, Betas, libtards, woke mob. Stolen Elections, Hunter's Laptop, The Biden Crime family, Hundreds of thousands of Americans killed due to border crossings, BLM, Extreme Left/Antifa, Democrat City Crime waves, terror in NYC, coming to take away your guns, make America Great Again (as if it wasn't), liberal elites.....to name just a few.

I wonder where people like you actually get your insights. Is it perhaps from the anecdotal group of Trump supporters you talk to (apparently not your "friends" as indicated in this thread).

What happened on January 6th? A mob stormed the capital, people go hurt/killed. Looking to hang Pence, took ****s on peoples desk! What do you think an "insurrectionist" does? Tired of the label? Media din't storm the capital and interfere with an election? The Grand Pooba of the water buffaloes did.

Pence upheld his constitutional oath. Maga don't recognize there are responsibilities that come with preserving a democracy.
Adulation of dictators like Putin is not how you preserve freedoms.

Q? Thats real too? Comic book ****. MAGA is like Pro Wrestling. You know its fake, but go with it anyway..

Biden stammers and y'all freak out. Half the garbage and lies Trump speaks to DAILY and nobody calls him out on it in the GOP. Same **** with Biden BTW, Nobody getting upset he is cooked. Not saying Dem's have the answers, but I'll kick the can down the road until the Majorie Taylor Green, Gaetz, and other MAGA morons are out.