Alpha1971 wrote:Years of Berman and Isola can you blame Knicks bosses for not talking ? The beat writers made themselves the story

I’d add in the entirety of the rest of the national media as well

For better or worse

Alpha1971 wrote:Hey Martin, something I just noticed, there is something called " Alba posts " next to the posters posting history Does that refer to Alba the beauty queen and mistress of our hearts ?

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=6305

joec32033 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Leon knows where all the bodies are buried and seemingly also hiding out there

BigDaddyG wrote:Do we even know if Leon is alive.

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https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/1684231098367111168

In a city where the media seems like it is always trying to "zing" the Knicks, its not hard to side with Leon Rose on this. He clearly is doing a good job and I think there is a lot of uncertainty in where we stand, that he probably doesn't see the benefit of speaking about. The only group that benefits from him talking to the media is the media. There is no way the press turns that conversation into a feel good story.

Honestly, I can always care less about player interviews unless they are done after the player is retired. Every player interviewed now has classic measured general responses that you hear from every other player.

Front office interviews are worse. They speak in even more generality (tampering), basically say what everyone already knows (...we need help in (x) area...), and even if they did say something that is even remotely candid, I wouldn't believe it (why the **** would you tell the world your plan?) they may or may not be lying (...I have 100% confidence in the coach...).

Reporters report. If nothing is going on, figure something out (don't make something up). Do your job. I wanted to be a journalist in college. If someone isn't going to talk, they ain't going to talk. Figure out another way to get your jub done.

I disagree. Front office news conferences can be a lot of fun. We had some great ones during Isaiah's run. Brendan Suhr laid out the advanced stats for why Jerome James was going to turn the franchise around. Isaiah and Dolan gave a great "WTF was that guy thinking?" one after firing Larry Brown. Sadly Greg Popovich and Kerr have made the sardonicaly uninformative answer a staple of interviews. Give me Riley challenging reporters to a push up contest any day.

martin wrote:Are you not entertained?!

The Chinese feeds I watch on don't go to commercial and generally linger for a minute?or two after the games. Sometimes I see some really interesting stuff- like Kyrie staying on the court the game before he issued his trade request to sign anything the kids wanted. One of the best was Randle clearly trying to avoid shaking Austin Rivers hand in 2021, Austin tracking him down, and then a "**** that guy" smirk after Rivers walked away. High comedy.

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:Are you not entertained?!

The Chinese feeds I watch on don't go to commercial and generally linger for a minute?or two after the games. Sometimes I see some really interesting stuff- like Kyrie staying on the court the game before he issued his trade request to sign anything the kids wanted. One of the best was Randle clearly trying to avoid shaking Austin Rivers hand in 2021, Austin tracking him down, and then a "**** that guy" smirk after Rivers walked away. High comedy.

Chinese feed post game entertainment, nice

In game too! I get to watch those guys try to win 5000 bucks by making a lay-up, free throw, 3 pointer and a half court shot in 30 seconds. There's this old Asian lady who's an icon at warriors games. She can only some amazing stuff with plates. She's got to be 50-60 but she still wears the same outfits as when she started at 25. Hot dude! LOL

gradyandrew wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Leon knows where all the bodies are buried and seemingly also hiding out there

BigDaddyG wrote:Do we even know if Leon is alive.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/1684231098367111168

In a city where the media seems like it is always trying to "zing" the Knicks, its not hard to side with Leon Rose on this. He clearly is doing a good job and I think there is a lot of uncertainty in where we stand, that he probably doesn't see the benefit of speaking about. The only group that benefits from him talking to the media is the media. There is no way the press turns that conversation into a feel good story.

Honestly, I can always care less about player interviews unless they are done after the player is retired. Every player interviewed now has classic measured general responses that you hear from every other player.

Front office interviews are worse. They speak in even more generality (tampering), basically say what everyone already knows (...we need help in (x) area...), and even if they did say something that is even remotely candid, I wouldn't believe it (why the **** would you tell the world your plan?) they may or may not be lying (...I have 100% confidence in the coach...).

Reporters report. If nothing is going on, figure something out (don't make something up). Do your job. I wanted to be a journalist in college. If someone isn't going to talk, they ain't going to talk. Figure out another way to get your jub done.

I disagree. Front office news conferences can be a lot of fun. We had some great ones during Isaiah's run. Brendan Suhr laid out the advanced stats for why Jerome James was going to turn the franchise around. Isaiah and Dolan gave a great "WTF was that guy thinking?" one after firing Larry Brown. Sadly Greg Popovich and Kerr have made the sardonicaly uninformative answer a staple of interviews. Give me Riley challenging reporters to a push up contest any day.

Fair point. The Hart and Brunson show was great. I want to see a three man booth with a banner in the back that says " 'Nova Boys ". Other then that, most interviews are stale and uninteresting because no reporters are really interested in pushing the guys they interview.

joec32033 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:Are you not entertained?!

The Chinese feeds I watch on don't go to commercial and generally linger for a minute?or two after the games. Sometimes I see some really interesting stuff- like Kyrie staying on the court the game before he issued his trade request to sign anything the kids wanted. One of the best was Randle clearly trying to avoid shaking Austin Rivers hand in 2021, Austin tracking him down, and then a "**** that guy" smirk after Rivers walked away. High comedy.

Chinese feed post game entertainment, nice

In game too! I get to watch those guys try to win 5000 bucks by making a lay-up, free throw, 3 pointer and a half court shot in 30 seconds. There's this old Asian lady who's an icon at warriors games. She can only some amazing stuff with plates. She's got to be 50-60 but she still wears the same outfits as when she started at 25. Hot dude! LOL

Red Panda!

Oh, you're talking about the spinning plate lady...I once saw a fine lady in Mexico do some amazing things with plates too.

Knixkik wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:Evan Fournier for Davis Bertrans and a young player like Garuba or another. OKC has to consolidate the roster. Bertrans stretch 4 10th man.

I don’t think the Knicks want Bertans contract since it’s partially guaranteed in 2025. Seems like it’s San Antonio or bust for a Fournier contract dump for right now. McDermott makes the most sense, but San Antonio will have more guys eligible for trade in early September so maybe we get some traction then.

Fournier-McDermott swap doesn't make sense cause it just adds a player who would be behind Josh Hart in the rotation? And DDV as a spacer? You are not getting value back realistically, just shuffling the deck.

OKC has to consolidate their roster and will most likely make some cuts. Garuba is a good candidate for that and I'd target him in a small transaction type deal.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:Evan Fournier for Davis Bertrans and a young player like Garuba or another. OKC has to consolidate the roster. Bertrans stretch 4 10th man.

I don’t think the Knicks want Bertans contract since it’s partially guaranteed in 2025. Seems like it’s San Antonio or bust for a Fournier contract dump for right now. McDermott makes the most sense, but San Antonio will have more guys eligible for trade in early September so maybe we get some traction then.

Fournier-McDermott swap doesn't make sense cause it just adds a player who would be behind Josh Hart in the rotation? And DDV as a spacer? You are not getting value back realistically, just shuffling the deck.

OKC has to consolidate their roster and will most likely make some cuts. Garuba is a good candidate for that and I'd target him in a small transaction type deal.

I don’t know Martin - I think Doug M would be a solid swap for Fournier.

He has more size so he could be a legit back up 4 and the 12-15 mins he might get would fit IMO at this point in his career. Plus he’s a legit shooter, one who has to be honored so he’s just another piece that could fit and perhaps win us a game or 2 with a big shot.

Above said - Thibs may already have Hart targeted for the back-up 4 minutes or we are just waiting on another trade for a bigger ‘ longer defensive 4.

1) whose 12-15 minutes are you taking away from?

2) why not hold on to Fournier for a better potential swap?