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Nalod
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7/24/2022  9:50 PM
martin wrote:

iHart runniung top of the key back door with obi will be super fun to see!!!!
I envision less minutes for Randle and……..Them playing together some.
Why?

Thibs is gonna coach it.
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8/2/2022  8:14 AM
How about we dub Hartenstein the "Beta Blocker"? I'm still workshopping these....
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9/21/2022  10:43 PM
Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?
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9/22/2022  7:12 AM
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

Supposedly he fouls too much

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9/22/2022  8:10 AM
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

Hartenstein is a backup with potential.

He has played on Houston team with CP3 and Harden and MDA where the C spot minutes were soaked up by Capella and obviously small ball was in place. Then on to Denver to back up Joker but that team wanted a more of a sure thing while heading for the playoffs and traded him to Cleveland for JaVale McGee. In Cleveland he started to get minutes - just under 18 min a game - playing behind Jarrett Allen until he got a concussion. And then Cleveland drafted Mobley and his time was done there. Onto LAC where he played just under 18 min a game again; LAC had a choice to sign John Wall or Hart and they chose backup PG.

He is literally one of those guys that keeps falling through the cracks.

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9/22/2022  8:16 AM
martin wrote:
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

Hartenstein is a backup with potential.

He has played on Houston team with CP3 and Harden and MDA where the C spot minutes were soaked up by Capella and obviously small ball was in place. Then on to Denver to back up Joker but that team wanted a more of a sure thing while heading for the playoffs and traded him to Cleveland for JaVale McGee. In Cleveland he started to get minutes - just under 18 min a game - playing behind Jarrett Allen until he got a concussion. And then Cleveland drafted Mobley and his time was done there. Onto LAC where he played just under 18 min a game again; LAC had a choice to sign John Wall or Hart and they chose backup PG.

He is literally one of those guys that keeps falling through the cracks.


Thanks for the insight. Cool if we got a good one.
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9/22/2022  9:35 AM
shinmen wrote:
martin wrote:
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

Hartenstein is a backup with potential.

He has played on Houston team with CP3 and Harden and MDA where the C spot minutes were soaked up by Capella and obviously small ball was in place. Then on to Denver to back up Joker but that team wanted a more of a sure thing while heading for the playoffs and traded him to Cleveland for JaVale McGee. In Cleveland he started to get minutes - just under 18 min a game - playing behind Jarrett Allen until he got a concussion. And then Cleveland drafted Mobley and his time was done there. Onto LAC where he played just under 18 min a game again; LAC had a choice to sign John Wall or Hart and they chose backup PG.

He is literally one of those guys that keeps falling through the cracks.


Thanks for the insight. Cool if we got a good one.

Hard to believe that Hart, MitchRob, Obi and Sims are all pretty much the same age as 24 (Sims is 23). We got some colts in the frontcourt!
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9/22/2022  4:36 PM
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

I hear you, I am in the same boat. I just watched a few of the highlight videos and he looked like Rik Smits.

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ramtour420 wrote:
shinmen wrote:Just a naive question because I haven't seen him play much. Hart seems like a good passer, good rim protector and can space the floor a bit according to advanced stats.
Why then could we have him cheap and why is he not projected as a starter? What's the catch or flaws in his game?

Supposedly he fouls too much

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harteis01.html

Sounds right. But, he brought his per36 fouls down from 9.6 to 4.9 over the last 4 years. Knicks coaching did a lot for Mitch Robinson in that category.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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9/27/2022  11:49 PM
Brunson gonna love this dude and they gonna make some defenses look silly

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10/4/2022  1:03 PM
martin wrote:

The New York Knicks’ new backup center has completed his schooling.

He studied under renowned basketball academic Chris Paul in Houston. There, he learned the art of film study. Paul is a hooping genius. The young big man stuck close to him to absorb it.

He apprenticed passing extraordinaire Nikola Jokic in Denver, where the budding pupil barely played. There, he learned the power of vision. Jokic is in touch with his third eye. He bends defenses before firing passes, almost as if he’s mastered mind control.

He researched with Clint Capela, a former Rockets center who could defend inside or away from the paint. From him, he learned the craft of versatility. He and Capela would have running conversations about switching on the perimeter, one of Capela’s strong suits.

Isaiah Hartenstein has been around, and his studies have brought him to places he’s been only in spirit.

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11/1/2022  10:59 AM
martin wrote:
Thibs is never not gonna play a center with this roster. Its really a strength of our team. I'm not in the pro/con Mitch/Hart camp. I'm in the "whoever we send out at the 5 is gonna phuck your sheet up" camp. Our size is really impactful.

Yeah man... our center rotation when distributing minutes (SPOILER: we dont care who your pounding comes from)

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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11/1/2022  11:26 AM
cannot argue with afa or sika - that is solid
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11/2/2022  12:35 AM
Mitch and Hart - the Wild Samoans?
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11/2/2022  7:19 AM
KnickDanger wrote:Mitch and Hart - the Wild Samoans?

Naw, they're clearly the Hart Foundation.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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