technomaster wrote:Next year will be a big one for Obi - if he develops into a player Thibs can trust, he can be paired anyone in pick and roll sets, including Randle. The Knicks need to figure out if Obi can guard 3-5’s.Thibs doesn’t seem to have the stomach the risk more than a few mins of OBi when he already knows has strong defenders in Noah/Taj/Bullock at those spots.

With a shot blockers at center....why can't Randle and Obi play 3/4.....And depending on the matchups, they can switch on defense.

Welpee wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Nalod wrote:Thibs breaks his yoot. Then he puts you back together. Question is can a young man stick?

Agreed obi is playing DEFENSE... if he can come in and score 9-12pts a game that’s awesome for backing up our star in randle

The problem with Obi is he has no positional versatility. So if there is a deal out there that makes sense we should trade him. Better off with a combo forward who can give mimutes at the 3 and 4. He is blocked on this roster. Don't give him away but if we can package him to get back a starting SF or PG we should do it

And wouldn't it nice to not have to play Randle 40 minutes because the drop-off is too steep when we go to the bench.

Jmpasq wrote:

blkexec wrote:

technomaster wrote:Next year will be a big one for Obi - if he develops into a player Thibs can trust, he can be paired anyone in pick and roll sets, including Randle. The Knicks need to figure out if Obi can guard 3-5’s.Thibs doesn’t seem to have the stomach the risk more than a few mins of OBi when he already knows has strong defenders in Noah/Taj/Bullock at those spots.

With a shot blockers at center....why can't Randle and Obi play 3/4.....And depending on the matchups, they can switch on defense.

Obi and Randle aren't the quickest players moving laterally. They're an awkward match.

xblvdels3 wrote:Think I heard on espn over the last 10 games if he was averaging more Minutes he would be 15ppg

Clearly he is figuring things out and getting comfortable.

Wait until next year and 3 years from now.

Why is everyone so quick to replace a 23 year old who is only making about 5m whom we have contract control over for the next 3 yeArs? Plus he is getting better.

Fans don’t want a competent backup pf who can give us 10+ points a game next year?

Imagine having Randle at 29 and Toppin at 26 on the same team 3 years from now.

Knicks could have a loaded roster 2-3 years from now the waver are building things!

Imagine being patient and trading Obi at good value instead of dumping after half a season?

Nalod wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:Think I heard on espn over the last 10 games if he was averaging more Minutes he would be 15ppg

Clearly he is figuring things out and getting comfortable.

Wait until next year and 3 years from now.

Why is everyone so quick to replace a 23 year old who is only making about 5m whom we have contract control over for the next 3 yeArs? Plus he is getting better.

Fans don’t want a competent backup pf who can give us 10+ points a game next year?

Imagine having Randle at 29 and Toppin at 26 on the same team 3 years from now.

Knicks could have a loaded roster 2-3 years from now the way they are building things!

Imagine being patient and trading Obi at good value instead of dumping after half a season?

fishmike wrote:Obi is gonna be a beast. Let Thibs and crew have their way. He and IQ are gonna be game winning Thib-grinding-minions

The RJ scout has spoken. Here endeth the lesson.

I know he's only getting something like 10mpg, but would like to see him swatting more shots though; especially on the perimeter.

I think the coaches just have these guys improving and in time the hard work will pay off. When Obi is a defensive force, he will get minutes somehow. There is a difference between talented and ready.

Jmpasq wrote:

BMart wrote:“But he only scored 4 points” the kid plays two 4 minute rotations, is in an offense that doesn’t highlight his athletic ability, is not an option period in this offense, without DRose Obi would never touch the basketball, works really hard doesn’t think he is entitled to anything.....despite all of that, he has a great attitude and puts the team first. He even gets the broom and dislodges the ball that is stuck on the backboard last night.

He is going to be a solid NBA player at some point, just not in NY.

He isn't the best fit for the roster. Not with Randle here

Obi is super talented. On a **** team he would be scoring 15-20 a game. On this squad he's learning to be a complete player and backing up an all star in his rookie season. Obi is progressing. Not being exposed. Nice to also see one of the most demanding coaching staffs loves his work ethic and coachability and attitude

Nalod wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:Think I heard on espn over the last 10 games if he was averaging more Minutes he would be 15ppg

Clearly he is figuring things out and getting comfortable.

Wait until next year and 3 years from now.

Why is everyone so quick to replace a 23 year old who is only making about 5m whom we have contract control over for the next 3 yeArs? Plus he is getting better.

Fans don’t want a competent backup pf who can give us 10+ points a game next year?

Imagine having Randle at 29 and Toppin at 26 on the same team 3 years from now.

Knicks could have a loaded roster 2-3 years from now the waver are building things!

Imagine being patient and trading Obi at good value instead of dumping after half a season?

But but but.... Pout...what has he done for us recently...pout some more. Let's trade away every rookie...Who wants cap friendly contacts? Who wants to see if players are able to improve every year in the NBA? Check out how injury prone a player is?
Nah, ain't got no time for that!!!
If he doesn't improve his game by year 3 then we can get back to this conversation.