KnickDanger wrote:Philc1 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Philc1 wrote:Nalod wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Nalod wrote:jrodmc wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:jrodmc wrote:Philc1 wrote:
Westbrook + two first round picks for Randle and DSJ I would have to seriously consider that
Can't stand Westbrook's D or his mentality, but sign me up for this.
Although I doubt this passes ANY kind of mirror test for Houston. Unless of course, someone sends them DSJ's 10th grade mix tape... 
There is ZERO way Houston makes that trade. Lol
Exactly, but it would be a great turn of events if we could somehow land Westbrook AND CP3. Lol. Now there's a short-term, starphucque deluxe backcourt!
Why settle for only one undesirable contract, when you could get TWO UNDESIRABLE CONTRACTS!!!
Then we'd also have the guy they traded to get WB!!! 
And of course Melo is always linked with CP3 because they said it so 10 years ago! It also brings “Jake, From State Farm””
“We need shooters” fans will cry! WE can make that looong rumored trade for Luke Kennard and perhaps if we throw in DSJ they will give us Griffith. We must give them Randle though!!!CP3
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why frank? To piss off 1248 of course.
Melo off the bench? Makes Jrod both a happy and pissed off at the same time. Happy he is a knick, mad cuz he off the bench. Melo and CP3 doing State Farm commercials. Its gonna be great!!
The only thing that pisses me off is losing, if we are winning, who the fck cares who's on the roster, I care about results.
I don't care if the entire roster is gone, or if they stay, I care about results.
Would you trade in one winning year we finish 4th seed, then lose in the 2nd round if you knew the next 6 years would not succeed?
Oh look. Where is that one familiar?
Phil jackson decided to blow it up because he didn't have triangle players.
Who the hell would trade expiring contacts of valuable role players for 2nd round picks and lance thomas.
And Melo started becoming injury prone and JR Smith started being an idiot. The Knicks could not wait to get rid of Shumpert and Smith.
And 5 players retired...KMart, Kidd, Kurt, Rasheed and was it camby? Yeah, Phil blew up a good thing. Get real.
Phil got a ton of flak for trying to do an actual rebuild. He got the Celtics to offer Jaylon Brown and multiple first round picks for Porzingis and people were screaming about how stupid he was
Not all people I wanted to do it
So did I. I remember hearing the idiot talking head shows on ESPN roast Phil for simply listening to trade offers. He was about to pull off a heist on the Celtics but Dolan stopped him
And this is the frustrating part -- Phil had a good opportunity and yet was lambasted for even considering it. You need to have really thick skin to not cave in to the mob. As discussed elsewhere we are at a crossroads where we can build from a firm foundation or trade our future for a Westbrook, a Harden, even a CP3. To appease the mob so they can continue to rip and clown when it fails again.
Slow down a bit. The conversation surrounding acquiring any of these and other players is qualified by the following considerations:
Its going to be a shortened season.
There aren't that many obvious ways to invest cap space in the next two years that are better (at the moment) options.
A winning veteran player, in a shortened season, are less likely to get hurt AND may add enough game stability to actually qualify for post-season play.
Thibs will want to have a roster that *can* win games.
Mobs form when:
We acquire any asset that is risky (such as those we're talking about) AND we give up way too many assets to justify that risk.
The player(s) arrive and decide to float downstream.
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I think what some of us are advocating quite independent of each other is that (for the first time in a long time) we leverage our unique cap space position to, in fact, take a risk with the EXPLICIT qualification that we are compensated for taking the risk.
I think a consensus fear is that the Knicks (and there's a sad history) will assume a risky transaction, pay double for it, and, upon arrival, find out that its damaged or compromised goods. We're all too familiar with the Trifecta.
That said, fingers crossed, it is time to assume some risk.