smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

martin wrote:This is the end game.... but when can we all get access to tests whose results are back within hours:

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What I don’t get is, if one country does stringent testing and suppresses the outbreak, what happens when they stop the stringent measures? what happens once flights start again? What happens when one state that had it go rampant, starts interacting with one where few got it? Or are well all going to have to keep separate until a vaccine?(which could be a year to 18 months away). Is suppressing it completely counter productive or is it best just to play for time until there’s a vaccine?

Close the borders, shut the whole thing down and you kill the virus in 30 days.
Scary or not, inconvenient yes, un-American, unprecedented . Unbelievable. Then you get a timeline. Nobody has to fight a war. Just stay the phuch home.
Close the clubs, close bridges. 30 day snow day. We got this people. Play video games, screw, chill......easy.

But unless every country successfully does that, then the thing just keeps getting re ignited when travel resumes.

by then rapid testing will be out. And hopefully vaccines will come out SOON

An Italian hospital that ran out of life-saving equipment for coronavirus patients was saved by a ‘hero’ engineer who used cutting-edge technology to design oxygen valves within a matter of hours. At least 10 lives were saved when technician Christian Fracassi came to the aid of an overwhelmed Brescia hospital that ran out of breathing tubes for an intensive care machine on Saturday.  Doctors raised the alarm after their regular supplier said they could not produce the valves on time – forcing them to come up with an alternative solution. Advertisement Advertisement With the help of the editor of a local newspaper Giornale di Brescia and tech expert Massimo Temporelli, doctors launched a search for a 3D printer – a devise that produces three dimensional objects from computer designs. Word soon reached Fracassi, a pharmaceutical company boss in possession of the coveted machine. He immediately brought his device to the hospital and, in just a few hours, redesigned and then produced the missing piece. A hospital in Brescia, Italy, ran out of respiratory valves needed to pump oxygen from intensive car machines (Picture: Cristian Fracassi) Now, despite the country battling an unprecedented health crisis, there is potential for a legal battle with local media reporting that the manufacturers of the valves are refusing to share their blue print for further production and could potentially sue for copyright breaches. ‘I have lawyers who are evaluating the matter, I am not dealing with it personally because I prefer to devote myself to this [the 3D designs]’ Fracassi told news outlet TPI. ‘In any case, I am holding my hands because in a world where money matters more than someone’s health, nothing else can be done he said

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

martin wrote:This is the end game.... but when can we all get access to tests whose results are back within hours:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1240279081293352964

What I don’t get is, if one country does stringent testing and suppresses the outbreak, what happens when they stop the stringent measures? what happens once flights start again? What happens when one state that had it go rampant, starts interacting with one where few got it? Or are well all going to have to keep separate until a vaccine?(which could be a year to 18 months away). Is suppressing it completely counter productive or is it best just to play for time until there’s a vaccine?

Close the borders, shut the whole thing down and you kill the virus in 30 days.
Scary or not, inconvenient yes, un-American, unprecedented . Unbelievable. Then you get a timeline. Nobody has to fight a war. Just stay the phuch home.
Close the clubs, close bridges. 30 day snow day. We got this people. Play video games, screw, chill......easy.

But unless every country successfully does that, then the thing just keeps getting re ignited when travel resumes.

by then rapid testing will be out. And hopefully vaccines will come out SOON

I can’t trust humanity or leadership enough to do a worldwide quarantine, albeit that’s obviously the way. Are we going to do that for the next stomach virus that comes out? I fear that $hit a lot more than Covid-19. That’s me speaking selfishly though.

I'm worried about the Ebola and Covid 19 virus becoming parents because then that's game over for humanity.

2% death rate of people largely with pre existing conditions is not 'terrible'. I don't want to downplay how horrible this pandemic is.

But, this has to be a wake up call for humanity that we have entered a global world where this **** is real. People have to stop eating bats. China has to shut down their wet markets.

And here in America, we better realize competence matters in our elected officials.

And we had better look at how we raise our food. Too much homogeneity. What would have happened if instead of the virus attacking us, it attacked was super lethal to our chickens? Or it was plant born and wiped out our corn? Or wheat?

And globally, we need to invest in the science that can attack these things- both in terms of creating a vaccine, but in guiding governments when they face something like this.

Marv wrote:dudes i’m quarantined at home with my girlfriend who got diagnosed with a mild case of it. the point i want to share is her doctor doesn’t care about her temperature - he cares about her blood oxygen level. Fortunately i had picked up an oximeter so we can monitor that and i’ll know if i have to get her to a hospital. $40 at a pharmacy or amazon - i recommend it.

Holy crap, best of health to everyone.

I am guessing temp is a first indicator type of thing but oxygen is the key to how things are progressing?

Marv wrote:dudes i’m quarantined at home with my girlfriend who got diagnosed with a mild case of it. the point i want to share is her doctor doesn’t care about her temperature - he cares about her blood oxygen level. Fortunately i had picked up an oximeter so we can monitor that and i’ll know if i have to get her to a hospital. $40 at a pharmacy or amazon - i recommend it.

Oh man, I knew all that booty-chasing was going to catch up with you one day! I really hope you're both okay, please let us know, must be scary but hopefully it stays mild. I think some phones (Galaxy Note 9 does) measures this (not sure how accurate but mine did show a big decrease when I went to the high altitude of Peru, and went back to normal when I got home, so it can definitely pick up some stuff.)

GustavBahler wrote:

Marv wrote:dudes i’m quarantined at home with my girlfriend who got diagnosed with a mild case of it. the point i want to share is her doctor doesn’t care about her temperature - he cares about her blood oxygen level. Fortunately i had picked up an oximeter so we can monitor that and i’ll know if i have to get her to a hospital. $40 at a pharmacy or amazon - i recommend it.

Hope she feels better real soon. I take Pycnogenol, which some studies have found that it gets more oxygen into the blood. But its also a blood thinner. Might want to ask your doc about that. The pine version. Not the grapeseed.

Allanfan20 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:California Residents told to stay home😳

All of California?

Yes. Gonna kill its economy - it's like one of the top 10 GDPs in the world compared to other countries? - and the Governor knows this, that's how badly the outlook is according to his intel IMHO