ChuckBuck wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:For those who are not aware, point guards like Westbrook, Curry, Paul and Lowry will be unrestricted free agents in 2017 and we will have 60 million dollars of cap space after this deal (and we only gave up Rolo and Grant). Winning!

We had plenty of cap space for LeBron in 2010. How did that work out for us? Just because we have cap space doesnt necessarily mean that we will attract the best FAs.

Look at the pool though.

http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/14/nba-free-agency-2017-the-top-players/

If we strike out on Curry, CP3, and Westbrook you wouldn't still jizz yourself ending up with Gordon Hayward and Greek Freak?!

I understand there are some good players out there, we aren't a lock to sign any of them. This team as you know has been a hot mess for 16 years. I believe most FAs who arent just out for a big paycheck are trying to find a winning situation. Moves like this would make me think twice if I were an FA.

*Disclaimer* I still think Phil's in charge, just wondering where the leak came from.

WaltLongmire wrote:

Chandler wrote:And hope Rose has one of those "playing for a contract" years

Might actually complicate things from a public relations angle.

Plays 70+games has good stats, and we end up in the playoffs...what do you pay for a guy who you still fear might be injured in the future- a guy who takes a long time to recover. He would be looking for his last max contract- you willing to sign him for 4/5 years at max money? You would be under a lot of pressure to sign him, unless you were sure you could get a Westbrook.

You do the ballsy move and go great guns for Westbrook (ESPECIALLY IF we are able to sign his buddy this year)

WaltLongmire wrote:Just heard it on the radio while I was doing work in the basement.

Don't like this trade unless something else is coming over.

I don't understand it at all, if it is true, unless their are other things in the works.

Can anyone tell me why this trade makes sense?

GustavBahler wrote:You have to be ****ing kidding me. Now thats a (Nalod copyrighted) Starphuck. This is an Isiah move if I ever saw one. Who the **** are we bidding against? And on top of that he's a lousy teammate WTF??????

WaltLongmire wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Holy crap - Getting an injury waiting to happen for a pretty good center on a GREAT contract in Lopez and giving up our 1st round pick from last year?
We get nothing back but a 2nd? Wow, bend over Phil.

We must be looking to sign someone big in FA or this is (another) disaster waiting to happen.

That is the only thing I can think of..and I'm also thinking about FAs next year, but...

Rose has 1 year left...what do you do with him next year if he has a decent but not great season. You know the guy will want a max contract. Maybe you get the #8 seed, lose to the Cavs in rnd 1, earn a midrange #1 draft pick, and then you have to debate over signing an injury prone player to a big contract.

Rose is not even a facilitator as a PG.

Hope I get proven wrong, but this does not seem like a wise trade at this point.

If Rose has a decent year then perfect we don't have to put all our eggs in Westbrook's basket

earthmansurfer wrote:Holy crap - Getting an injury waiting to happen for a pretty good center on a GREAT contract in Lopez and giving up our 1st round pick from last year?
We get nothing back but a 2nd? Wow, bend over Phil.

We must be looking to sign someone big in FA or this is (another) disaster waiting to happen.

GustavBahler wrote: We had the best frontcourt since Ewing/Oakley and he wants to break that up for Rose?

VCoug wrote:Fucking terrible trade. How do you give up a good center on a GREAT contract and a decent young PG on his rookie deal for Rose? A guy who hasn't made a single positive contribution on the court since 2011?!?! If we were that desperate for cap space next summer we couldn't have found some team to trade Lopez to where'd we get actual assets back? Or, why didn't we just not sign him last year? What the **** are we doing? Is there any semblance of a plan?

It's a strange move, no doubt. I can't say I'm not thinking some of the same things. It comes off to me like Phil placated Melo with this move, is trying to get the team back to the playoffs next season but is coveting the future cap space more than anything with this move.

GustavBahler wrote:Anyone who could have as dismal a career as Mills has had as a front office executive, and still be around to have a part in this doo-doo trade, is very empowered. Still, Phil just gifted one of the best young Centers in this league to his old team, a good prospect in Grant, for what? A big name whose best days are well behind him who can walk after a year. Sounds like Isiah is the one who is really empowered here.

anrst wrote:Does Rose know the Triangle?