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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/18/2015 5:38 PM
crzymdups wrote:I wonder if Jennings and his agent are trying to get him to NY. This doesn't seem random. Also, for the first couple of years after the Knicks passed on him in the draft, Jennings had great games against the knicks.CrushAlot wrote:Sounds like he might be playing against the W-Knicks in a rehab assignment.Detroit Pistons point guard Brandon Jennings told reporters today that he is open to a rehab stint with NBA Development League affiliate Grand Rapids. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Moonangie
Posts: 24767 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
12/19/2015 2:28 PM
CrushAlot wrote:crzymdups wrote:I wonder if Jennings and his agent are trying to get him to NY. This doesn't seem random. Also, for the first couple of years after the Knicks passed on him in the draft, Jennings had great games against the knicks.CrushAlot wrote:Sounds like he might be playing against the W-Knicks in a rehab assignment.Detroit Pistons point guard Brandon Jennings told reporters today that he is open to a rehab stint with NBA Development League affiliate Grand Rapids. He seems to always play great at MSG. He torched the Knicks more than once. Still not interested. Don't need any more shoot first, think never type players. Doubtful PJax would be interested. |
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newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
12/21/2015 10:18 AM
Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship.
PG--R.Rondo To get both of them we'd have to trade for one and get the other in free agency after the year so it would be tough to do but that lineup and with some really good players coming off the bench we'd be a fun team to watch and a dangerous team to play. |
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
12/21/2015 10:20 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. I don't think that rondo would be good for us despite the attitude. Dude can't shoot a lick and he would at least have to knock down the mid range on a consistent basis. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
12/21/2015 10:22 AM
blkexec wrote:You add Jennings if it's a steal. Otherwise, you pass....In fact, thats the case with all the available PGs on the trading block. I haven't seen anybody thats worlth trading Grant or Gallo for. Plus we have Jimmer simmering in the D league crock pot. There's not since of urgency on our end. We have the kind of GM I like, who doesn't believe in other teams getting over on him, as far as trades.... I was one of the biggest Jimmer fans when he came out of college and into the NBA but the kid just isn't made for the NBA. For some reason he just can't find his shot or his confidence every time he gets a chance to play in the NBA. I hope i'm wrong and we bring him up and he shoots the rock like he did in college but i just don't see it. |
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newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
12/21/2015 10:24 AM
mreinman wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. Believe me i understand that he doesn't have a good shot but everything else he does from his defense to his getting to the basket to his great passing are thing you can win with from the PG spot. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
12/21/2015 11:49 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:mreinman wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. I like the idea of this lineup - but Rondo is too problematic. Also, realistically, we can probably only afford Nic Batum in that scenario. Rondo is looking for a big payday next summer. Also, we'll owe Galloway and Lance Thomas more money next season, too. But adding Batum would allow for a ton of flexibility going forward. Looking at the Grizzlies struggle though, I sort of wonder if Mike Conley might be on the table. I still think he's the perfect point guard for this team. I do love the flexibility Batum would provide us - but realistically we can only grab one of those two, I think. ¿ △ ?
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blkexec
Posts: 28451 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
12/21/2015 11:49 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. I don't think it's an accurate comparison. We can obtain Jennings right now and still get Rondo next season, IF Jennings doesn't work out. I'm not worried about his injury.....I'm all too famaliar with that. I worry more about his defense. But Jennings would be an offensive addition plus he will increase team assist. He will add much needed fire power to our starting unit, and possibly help us remove Jose's contract and give us more free agent room for next year. If they are willing to do a Jose and Jennings swap, it's a no brainer. If they want more, then thats a separate discussion. But to respond to your post, why not have both? Jennings now....Rondo later! Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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bigbasketballs
Posts: 20627 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/29/2015 Member: #6167 |
12/21/2015 11:56 AM
blkexec wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. Why is Detroit doing Jennings for Calderon? |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
12/21/2015 12:02 PM
bigbasketballs wrote:blkexec wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. So they can add a year of guaranteed salary, of course! Jennings actually fits what Detroit does very well. They could sometimes run two PG lineup with Jackson and Jennings. Though Caldwell-Pope is playing really well and is a huge part of what they do. They don't have a ton of depth at the guards though. If Jennings could be persuaded to be the third guard, Detroit could be super dangerous. ¿ △ ?
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blkexec
Posts: 28451 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
12/21/2015 12:05 PM
bigbasketballs wrote:blkexec wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. They are going to lose Jennings anyway......and Calderon is a solid backup PG with a short contract. Your starting and backup PG position is set. Vs.....adding an unproven rookie as your backup or a solid veteran backup with starter experience. Remember, Calderon's contract year is the year after next. With the cap going up, his contract is very minimal.....I'm not sure Detroit can get a better backup (with starter experience) at that price. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
12/21/2015 12:07 PM
blkexec wrote:bigbasketballs wrote:blkexec wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Let me ask you guys this. Would you rather take the chance on B.Jennings and the injury risk that comes with him or would you rather take the risk on R.Rondo and his attitude problems?? I think Rondo would be a big help for this team but would his bad attitude hurt the team more than his great play would help the team?? I think if we added a R.Rondo and a N.Batum and go to a small ball starting lineup we would be contending for deep playoff runs and maybe even a championship. Calderon doesn't fit what Detroit does on offense though. Jennings does. SVG has hinted he's going to try to make it work. And he has ultimate control there. ¿ △ ?
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MS
Posts: 27064 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
12/21/2015 12:09 PM
Rondo is problem.
Garnett, Pierce and Allen really kept him in check and he still had multiple problems. He was a disaster in Dallas and his been no saint in Sactown. So why bring on a personality like that when you have good chemistry and good guys in the lockroom. |
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blkexec
Posts: 28451 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
12/21/2015 12:18 PM
MS wrote:Rondo is problem. Rondo is a risk worth taking, IF he's the final championship piece to the puzzle. Right now, we are not a Rondo addition away from winning a championship. But if we hit on all of our free agency targets, (big and small)....we could be! But knowing how things went this last off season, my guess is no.....And if thats the case, Rondo can single handidly destroy your team / coach. So it depends on what pieces we add, similar to the vets Rondo had in Boston. He needs to be in a good fit for him to succeed. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
12/21/2015 12:29 PM
blkexec wrote:MS wrote:Rondo is problem. Rondo is not a consideration under any circumstances. It took 3 superstars and a willing coach to even keep him in check. I don't think the Knicks, even if they added say a Durant would be able to keep Rondo in check. Fisher doesn't have that sort of coach pull either. |
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/21/2015 12:32 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:blkexec wrote:MS wrote:Rondo is problem. It would be Phil's task to get through to him. Rondo is considered a genius but has some sort of socialization issue. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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martin
Posts: 80092 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/21/2015 12:37 PM
dk7th wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:blkexec wrote:MS wrote:Rondo is problem. Phil ain't the head coach any more. It would take coach and players and the Knicks got other things to deal with Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/21/2015 12:46 PM LAST EDITED: 12/21/2015 12:47 PM
martin wrote:dk7th wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:blkexec wrote:MS wrote:Rondo is problem. but he is around. maybe he'd be around enough or commit to being around enough if rondo ended up here. the issue would not only be rondo's personality but how well he could function in the triangle where the point guard's role is much less orchestrating and drive and kick and more making entry passes to post bigs and draining corner threes. it would not be a great fit even without the behavioral issues. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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