StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Snap out of it guys. As zing says. Melo does it nightly. Have your fun bashing. Melo won that game down the stretch and zing won it overall. That three by Melo was awesome.

Try to not say something bad about Melo. If you can't. You are just hating. You don't have to say something nice. But it's weak after winning 4 in a row seeing "Melo should have sat" or "Melo didn't pass enough" b

Keep it up. The ignore list is growing.

Go Knicks. Boo haters.

melo haters and melo lovers are equally annoying. I just try to be objective. He played well last night but played poorly tonight...its that simple

He didn't play poorly. If any other Knick had his game he'd be called out for a nice contribution.

14 and 6 doesn't grow on trees in the NBA.

There may well indeed be Melo lovers. But there is a third category as well. They're in the "can you really not let Melo go 15 mins after a road win?' camp.

It was a tough summer for that third category of posters. A lot if really good posters have left the board because of all the bashing. Hopefully they start to come back.

we have good posters on this board. I dont think its as bad as you make it out to be

Have to disagree. There were some brutal threads over the summer. And guys have come back that used to post here and have stated why they don't post anymore.

there are brutal threads on EVERY site. You have to have thicker skin. For the most part we have good posters. Personally i like posters who are more objective and will point out issues, weaknesses, small criticisms etc.. however they are still loyal knick fans

I promise not to start another thread with the exact same theme if I get called out for what I am posting from now on. That will be my first step for growing a thicker skin.

But seriously, you can disagree with posting based on assumptions and speculations a d bring it back up when it turns out that the speculations and assumptions were wrong right? I was totally wrong about the Bargs trade. You had it right on day 1. I hate Bargs now but I was very wrong at the time of the trade.

are you refering to me in your first sentence? I dont give a damn about being right or wrong...i care about the knicks winning. Im actually happy about our season so far. As a basketball player i deal with criticisms constantly só i do the same thing as a fan watching because i see the upside the team has

I was responding to you. You did start another melo kp thread? I am very happy with the team and with team success.

my thread was different. It was about how good they can be on the court together. Melo doing a good job drawing defenders to him and dishing it to KP. But hey like you said im so critical of melo

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Something happened Saturday that has only occurred twice in the past 12 months: Carmelo Anthony played 25 minutes and took fewer than 11 shots. Only twice in his past 42 games has Anthony played at least 25 minutes and taken 10 or fewer shots.

On Saturday, Anthony was hampered by foul trouble. He finished with 14 points on 5-for-10 shooting. But don't let the low point total fool you. When he was on the floor, Anthony occupied defenders well and served as a decoy of sorts for the Knicks. He didn’t force many shots or overdribble -- two sins he has committed in the past.

New York outscored Houston by seven in Anthony’s 25 minutes. He was also active late in the game. He hit a 3-point shot with 2:17 to play to break a 95-95 tie and scored on a strong post move with :39 seconds to put New York up by three. (His basket with :39 seconds to go was on a goaltend.)

Porzingis had the monster night. Especially the 7 blocks to go along with yet another double double

you guys are so brainwashed to hate this player your not even aware of it. EVERYTHING involving Melo is a dick measuring contest.

Typical Melo dick measuring wank-a-thon aside, great thread. These two players clearly like and appreciate each other. They have dual inside outside games that allow either to expose a weakness on the floor and really attack it. Would anyone be suprised to see KP score ten points in a 3 minute stretch because he's got a 6-7 player on him? Or Melo to do the same?

The other gem here are the complimentary role players. Rolo next to KP is a wall of length, and where KP may be rookie and perhaps timid when it comes to physical play... Hard fouls etc, ROLO will not. Calderon is shooting well as I hoped and Galloway kills it, so we are really supporting this duo well.

Nice topic. I'm loving this team.

CrushAlot wrote:^^^read what guys post when they come back. And you are right about my smug post. Sorry Irish. I like chatting with you. That was over the top on my part.

What guy? One person's opinion? We lost someone good posters who were sick of all the back and forth, endorses tired excuses & absolving of certain players of blame entirely. We've all had players to disliked over the years but we hope they change their ways because most of us put he Knicks ahead of any one player

See this is how you turn a good basketball discussion into non-basketball crapola. Wanting players to change their ways and then giving him credit for showing significant signing of changing is a basketball discussion. Singling out posters who you may not agree with and attempting to rub it in their faces when you never understood the premise of the basketball arguments to begin with which were to help us get where we are today isn't basketball

meloshouldgo wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Actually, believe it or not, after the rough start, Calderon has been playing very well too.

The reason I don't post here at all - is because basketball posts like this are ignored in favor of people with personality issues trying to gain an audience to their weak-ass POVs.

People need to stop being so hung up on whether they were right or wrong about a trade 5 years ago, no one gives a S#!+. Stick to the present and discuss what you see, not what you said last year or 5 years ago. Page after page, thread after thread this forum has become more about insecure posters validating their own beliefs and calling each other out. Can we just stick to B A S K E T B A L L???

I guess you have to pick and choose the threads you look at and respond to the folks you think are making a good point worthy of responding too.

There are a lot of divisive issues surrounding this team...

Phil- rubs some folks the wrong way, and kept us from a title or two way back when

Fisher- rookie coach who was the substitute for the guy who won it all last year, and whose rotations some question

Melo- you are proof of this in some way

Drafting KP- Many nice players to choose from. The ranks of those who question this pick are getting slimmer each game, and I don't even see some of them posting now. Seems like the only question is not whether he is a good player...but how good can he become.

Hatred or love for specific players at certain times- Calderon, Thomas, Williams, Amundson, etc.

I think you can expect this type of thing with fans of a franchise that has been in the dumps for so long. I think things will calm down at some point. I might be annoyed with some posters, and some might not like me at times, but its not that hard to negotiate through all the BS and have a good discussion. Also helps if you don't take things personally, I guess. I think I've lost my temper with some posters, but I still continue to post because there is enough here to pique my interest and keep the brain cells active.

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Heck I thought we lost Bonn, a UK fixture there for a second lol

Mister Earl showed up in a game thread a few days ago. Hope he is back as well.

And if I'm not mistake he explained to Martin why he hasn't been around. I may be wrong but he ls been busy. I doubt someone Earl's age who's seen so much in his life is going to be that sensitive

meloshouldgo wrote:

Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Actually, believe it or not, after the rough start, Calderon has been playing very well too.

The reason I don't post here at all - is because basketball posts like this are ignored in favor of people with personality issues trying to gain an audience to their weak-ass POVs.

People need to stop being so hung up on whether they were right or wrong about a trade 5 years ago, no one gives a S#!+. Stick to the present and discuss what you see, not what you said last year or 5 years ago. Page after page, thread after thread this forum has become more about insecure posters validating their own beliefs and calling each other out. Can we just stick to B A S K E T B A L L???

You only want to talk BASKETBALL with a name like Meloshouldgo?

Actually yes, I think when HE does go, we can get back to talking basketball again.

YOu really that delusional or is this just your schtick?

bigbasketballs wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Actually, believe it or not, after the rough start, Calderon has been playing very well too.

The reason I don't post here at all - is because basketball posts like this are ignored in favor of people with personality issues trying to gain an audience to their weak-ass POVs.

People need to stop being so hung up on whether they were right or wrong about a trade 5 years ago, no one gives a S#!+. Stick to the present and discuss what you see, not what you said last year or 5 years ago. Page after page, thread after thread this forum has become more about insecure posters validating their own beliefs and calling each other out. Can we just stick to B A S K E T B A L L???

You only want to talk BASKETBALL with a name like Meloshouldgo?

Actually yes, I think when HE does go, we can get back to talking basketball again.

YOu really that delusional or is this just your schtick?

Yes, delusional, stupid, not a long time poster and any other adjectives that you want to throw at me. I don't give a flying flip about about personal attacks and lame as self validation threads here.

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Something happened Saturday that has only occurred twice in the past 12 months: Carmelo Anthony played 25 minutes and took fewer than 11 shots. Only twice in his past 42 games has Anthony played at least 25 minutes and taken 10 or fewer shots.

On Saturday, Anthony was hampered by foul trouble. He finished with 14 points on 5-for-10 shooting. But don't let the low point total fool you. When he was on the floor, Anthony occupied defenders well and served as a decoy of sorts for the Knicks. He didn’t force many shots or overdribble -- two sins he has committed in the past.

New York outscored Houston by seven in Anthony’s 25 minutes. He was also active late in the game. He hit a 3-point shot with 2:17 to play to break a 95-95 tie and scored on a strong post move with :39 seconds to put New York up by three. (His basket with :39 seconds to go was on a goaltend.)

Porzingis had the monster night. Especially the 7 blocks to go along with yet another double double

you guys are so brainwashed to hate this player your not even aware of it. EVERYTHING involving Melo is a dick measuring contest.

Typical Melo dick measuring wank-a-thon aside, great thread. These two players clearly like and appreciate each other. They have dual inside outside games that allow either to expose a weakness on the floor and really attack it. Would anyone be suprised to see KP score ten points in a 3 minute stretch because he's got a 6-7 player on him? Or Melo to do the same?

The other gem here are the complimentary role players. Rolo next to KP is a wall of length, and where KP may be rookie and perhaps timid when it comes to physical play... Hard fouls etc, ROLO will not. Calderon is shooting well as I hoped and Galloway kills it, so we are really supporting this duo well.

Nice topic. I'm loving this team.

It's a very smartly built team. You can finally see what Phil meant when he called our last roster clumsy.

Afflalo has opened up new possibilities on offense and I think created a lot more space for Calderon to operate. I don't know the exact numbers, but I think he's averaging about 10pts and 5ast on much better shooting since Afflalo had returned, from like 5ppg and 2apg before that.

It's been mentioned a bunch that Rolo does stuff that doesn't show up in the box score, like boxing out for other guys to grab the rebounds. He also seems to know when he should pick his spots on offense - his drop step post move in the first quarter was needed as Melo was off.

Galloway has been great and should be a legit sixth man candidate.

But, yeah, the most inspiring thing has been how Porzingis and Melo complement each other and pick up the other when one is having an off night. Porzingis matched up against Anthony Davis? Melo goes off for 29 and 13. Melo double and triple teamed by Charlotte? KP goes off for 29 and 11. KP locked down a bit by Ibaka, Melo puts in a workman like 25 and 5. Melo in foul trouble against Houston and seemingly tired in the back to back, KP dominates at center against a small team and drops 24pts 14rebs and 7blks.

It's a good balance. And it's a thing good teams do. I think it involves a certain amount of awareness from Melo. Charlotte was double and triple teaming him all night and he patiently passed out all night.

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Something happened Saturday that has only occurred twice in the past 12 months: Carmelo Anthony played 25 minutes and took fewer than 11 shots. Only twice in his past 42 games has Anthony played at least 25 minutes and taken 10 or fewer shots.

On Saturday, Anthony was hampered by foul trouble. He finished with 14 points on 5-for-10 shooting. But don't let the low point total fool you. When he was on the floor, Anthony occupied defenders well and served as a decoy of sorts for the Knicks. He didn’t force many shots or overdribble -- two sins he has committed in the past.

New York outscored Houston by seven in Anthony’s 25 minutes. He was also active late in the game. He hit a 3-point shot with 2:17 to play to break a 95-95 tie and scored on a strong post move with :39 seconds to put New York up by three. (His basket with :39 seconds to go was on a goaltend.)

Porzingis had the monster night. Especially the 7 blocks to go along with yet another double double

you guys are so brainwashed to hate this player your not even aware of it. EVERYTHING involving Melo is a dick measuring contest.

Typical Melo dick measuring wank-a-thon aside, great thread. These two players clearly like and appreciate each other. They have dual inside outside games that allow either to expose a weakness on the floor and really attack it. Would anyone be suprised to see KP score ten points in a 3 minute stretch because he's got a 6-7 player on him? Or Melo to do the same?

The other gem here are the complimentary role players. Rolo next to KP is a wall of length, and where KP may be rookie and perhaps timid when it comes to physical play... Hard fouls etc, ROLO will not. Calderon is shooting well as I hoped and Galloway kills it, so we are really supporting this duo well.

Nice topic. I'm loving this team.

It's a very smartly built team. You can finally see what Phil meant when he called our last roster clumsy.

Afflalo has opened up new possibilities on offense and I think created a lot more space for Calderon to operate. I don't know the exact numbers, but I think he's averaging about 10pts and 5ast on much better shooting since Afflalo had returned, from like 5ppg and 2apg before that.

It's been mentioned a bunch that Rolo does stuff that doesn't show up in the box score, like boxing out for other guys to grab the rebounds. He also seems to know when he should pick his spots on offense - his drop step post move in the first quarter was needed as Melo was off.

Galloway has been great and should be a legit sixth man candidate.

But, yeah, the most inspiring thing has been how Porzingis and Melo complement each other and pick up the other when one is having an off night. Porzingis matched up against Anthony Davis? Melo goes off for 29 and 13. Melo double and triple teamed by Charlotte? KP goes off for 29 and 11. KP locked down a bit by Ibaka, Melo puts in a workman like 25 and 5. Melo in foul trouble against Houston and seemingly tired in the back to back, KP dominates at center against a small team and drops 24pts 14rebs and 7blks.

It's a good balance. And it's a thing good teams do. I think it involves a certain amount of awareness from Melo. Charlotte was double and triple teaming him all night and he patiently passed out all night.

bigbasketballs wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Actually, believe it or not, after the rough start, Calderon has been playing very well too.

The reason I don't post here at all - is because basketball posts like this are ignored in favor of people with personality issues trying to gain an audience to their weak-ass POVs.

People need to stop being so hung up on whether they were right or wrong about a trade 5 years ago, no one gives a S#!+. Stick to the present and discuss what you see, not what you said last year or 5 years ago. Page after page, thread after thread this forum has become more about insecure posters validating their own beliefs and calling each other out. Can we just stick to B A S K E T B A L L???

You only want to talk BASKETBALL with a name like Meloshouldgo?

Actually yes, I think when HE does go, we can get back to talking basketball again.

YOu really that delusional or is this just your schtick?

Yes, delusional, stupid, not a long time poster and any other adjectives that you want to throw at me. I don't give a flying flip about about personal attacks and lame as self validation threads here.

Not a personal attack. I don't know you personally, or even from this board. First I've ever seen a post if yours was a few moments ago.

But you just called people out for not 'just wanting to talk basketball'. When fairly pointed out what your username is, you tried to spin it as so long as Carmelo Anthony is on the team, nobody can talk basketball, which is basically declaring no basketball can ever be discussed here and every topic will devolve into the same discussion.

Strictly on the surface, that seems very un self-aware.

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