holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

Here are the differences in how you view things versus how I view things..In battle, soldiers fall from attrition in pursuit towards their goal...When the flag bearer falls, the platoon knows who will rise to the occasion, grab the flag and charge up the hill ahead of everyone...Everyone on the battle field knows who will grab that flag, it's not even a question...Some guys will follow and some guys won't...The guy who grabs the flag is your leader for simply doing that act...Your leader is made on the battle field not in the barracks, as many here want to suggest...Aldrige grabbed that flag and charged uphill and no one followed...Melo grabbed that flag against Indy and Shump followed as best he could...LeBron grabbed that flag and Mozgov followed...Curry grabbed the flag and the whole team followed...Get it????

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

Here are the differences in how you view things versus how I view things..In battle, soldiers fall from attrition in pursuit towards their goal...When the flag bearer falls, the platoon knows who will rise to the occasion, grab the flag and charge up the hill ahead of everyone...Everyone on the battle field knows who will grab that flag, it's not even a question...Some guys will follow and some guys won't...The guy who grabs the flag is your leader for simply doing that act...Your leader is made on the battle field not in the barracks, as many here want to suggest...Aldrige grabbed that flag and charged uphill and no one followed...Melo grabbed that flag against Indy and Shump followed as best he could...LeBron grabbed that flag and Mozgov followed...Curry grabbed the flag and the whole team followed...Get it????

Heres the difference in how you view things vs some of the rest of us......you are preparing for a battle with a flag bearing leader charging up the hill taking shots. We are preparing for an entire long term war where it is not just about one flag bearing hero but about the infantry and tanks and marines and homeland protection etc. There are different roles on a roster, and when you are preparing for war, you have to ensure you are prepared for the long haul on offense and defense. The Knicks are not there yet, but adding another flag bearer on offense while it might win some battles does not seem like the right way to build for war.

holfresh wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

Here are the differences in how you view things versus how I view things..In battle, soldiers fall from attrition in pursuit towards their goal...When the flag bearer falls, the platoon knows who will rise to the occasion, grab the flag and charge up the hill ahead of everyone...Everyone on the battle field knows who will grab that flag, it's not even a question...Some guys will follow and some guys won't...The guy who grabs the flag is your leader for simply doing that act...Your leader is made on the battle field not in the barracks, as many here want to suggest...Aldrige grabbed that flag and charged uphill and no one followed...Melo grabbed that flag against Indy and Shump followed as best he could...LeBron grabbed that flag and Mozgov followed...Curry grabbed the flag and the whole team followed...Get it????

Heres the difference in how you view things vs some of the rest of us......you are preparing for a battle with a flag bearing leader charging up the hill taking shots. We are preparing for an entire long term war where it is not just about one flag bearing hero but about the infantry and tanks and marines and homeland protection etc. There are different roles on a roster, and when you are preparing for war, you have to ensure you are prepared for the long haul on offense and defense. The Knicks are not there yet, but adding another flag bearer on offense while it might win some battles does not seem like the right way to build for war.

Isn't that the entire crux of my argument??..Adding pieces who are willing to share the burden and have shown courage thru action we have seen, not imagined??? Thats what teams like Boston did who added KG and Ray Allen and let Rondo develop in a winning atmosphere...The Heat with LeBron and Bosh along with young players like Charlmers and Cole..The Lakers adding Shaq who went to the Finals before going to LA then later adding Gasol...Portland didn't want to resign the pieces that failed in the last battle that you now qualify as infantry men, and who can blame them...We added soft players, guys who didn't want to run up that hill..Guys who were riding the pine in the playoffs and on lottery teams...They aren't hungry...But that's the foundation you think are tanks and marines...They are soft and are nice young men..I hear they come from good families according to Phil...That's the priority it seems..Aldridge and Melo would be a nice foundation with additional pieces that can be added next year to compete with the East...

I suspect you are kidding around with this post - but just in case not.......

Aldridge was not coming to NY, but somehow you keep harping on him as if he was a viable option. Just for argument's sake let's say NY was a destination for LMA. He is an offensive minded 4 who will join Melo an offensive minded 3/4 (who is becoming more of a 4 as the years go by) - and they both of similar age and bring similar things, will play similar minutes and operate basically in a similar space on the floor. How does this diversify the dynamic of the overall team?

Boston added KG (an all around great player and also defensive minded 4/5) and Allen (a sharpshooting 2) to a roster that had Pierce (a great 3) and later Rondo (a 1). So they were essentially adding pieces to make their entire roster formidable on offense and defense - not just at one position.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh conspired to play together in Miami prior to the "Decision" - so not sure how that even fits in. Even with that, Lebron was basically a Point Forward 3, Wade a 2 and Bosh a 4/5 adding in Chalmers/Cole who split time at the 1 if I recall. So this just makes my point for me that they were also adding diverse pieces to the roster to work together as a team - not just strengthening one position.

Shaq was added to a roster with Bryant - essentially pairing 2 Top All Time NBA players at the 2 and 5 with an All Time NBA Coach. Not sure who the Knicks were picking up this season that fits into those categories - perhaps you can enlighten me as to this analogy that you are trying to make.

There is a difference between Heart and Talent. You are calling players soft which indicates you think they have no heart. I believe you are mistaken - and that players such as Lopez etc, while not having All World Talent - certainly play with heart and effort. The most derogatory thing you can call a professional athlete is Soft. Given what it takes to become a professional athlete - it is kind of despicable for someone who hangs out posting on a blog all day to say.

The Knicks had no real shot at Aldridge - given that, what moves would you have made this offseason to bring in "Hardened" NBA All Star types who want to run up the hill as you call it?

holfresh wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

Here are the differences in how you view things versus how I view things..In battle, soldiers fall from attrition in pursuit towards their goal...When the flag bearer falls, the platoon knows who will rise to the occasion, grab the flag and charge up the hill ahead of everyone...Everyone on the battle field knows who will grab that flag, it's not even a question...Some guys will follow and some guys won't...The guy who grabs the flag is your leader for simply doing that act...Your leader is made on the battle field not in the barracks, as many here want to suggest...Aldrige grabbed that flag and charged uphill and no one followed...Melo grabbed that flag against Indy and Shump followed as best he could...LeBron grabbed that flag and Mozgov followed...Curry grabbed the flag and the whole team followed...Get it????

Heres the difference in how you view things vs some of the rest of us......you are preparing for a battle with a flag bearing leader charging up the hill taking shots. We are preparing for an entire long term war where it is not just about one flag bearing hero but about the infantry and tanks and marines and homeland protection etc. There are different roles on a roster, and when you are preparing for war, you have to ensure you are prepared for the long haul on offense and defense. The Knicks are not there yet, but adding another flag bearer on offense while it might win some battles does not seem like the right way to build for war.

We added soft players, guys who didn't want to run up that hill..Guys who were riding the pine in the playoffs and on lottery teams...They aren't hungry...But that's the foundation you think are tanks and marines...They are soft and are nice young men..I hear they come from good families according to Phil...That's the priority it seems..Aldridge and Melo would be a nice foundation with additional pieces that can be added next year to compete with the East...

Soft players?
Porzingis is soft?
Jerian Grant is soft?
Robin Lopez is SOFT?
Kevin Seraphin is soft?
Oquinn is soft?

Try again.

TPercy wrote:

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TPercy wrote:

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holfresh wrote:The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball..

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function...Melo rebounds at a higher clip..

The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..

What have I said that has not been measured? You think the numbers I have mentioned can't be seen or measured?

Per Ian Begley

Lopez allowed opponents to shoot just 48 percent at the rim last season.
Lopez ranked ahead of the following elite rim defenders: Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan. Not bad.
In 2013-14, Lopez’s numbers as a rim protector were more impressive. He allowed opponents to shoot 46 percent at the rim, the NBA's second-best percentage behind Roy Hibbert.
For what it's worth, the Knicks as a team ranked 11th in the NBA in opponent field goal percentage at the rim last season. Lopez should boost those numbers in 2015-16.

You think scrubs can pull off what he does? Enough with the bull **** man.

If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball.

Or he is being efficient and trying to maximise as many high % shots as possible and, Oh yes! when you are on a team that has guys like Damian Lillard, Wesley Matthews, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Nicolas Batum, you are not neccessarily going to get many oppurtunities to get your own shot off.

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function

This dosen't make any sense to me. If you are one of the top contested rebounders in the league, then that tells you that he is boxing out really well or is working hard to get to those rebounds. Holfresh answer me this question. Would you rather have a guy who can get you 5-7 hard earned, contested rebounds OR would you rather have a guy who will get you 8-10 uncontested rebounds?

Bro, do yourself a favor, stop listening to these guys that talk rim protection...DHow was swatting close to 3 shots a game in the playoffs..Lopez wasn't/can't do anything close to that..That's rim protection...DHow wa pulling down like 14 boards per in the playoffs..U gonna really tell me why Lopez numbers are better because it was contested??

Since when does a guy blocking 1 shot a game become a rim protector?..Stop it!!

Holfresh says
just ignore the clear facts that expert statistican provide and listen to my ludicrous statistical analysis.

Did I say anything about Dwight Howard? Did I say that Robin was a better rebounder? No. I am saying is that you shold not be busting his chops so much about his rebounding.

Experts???...These guys haven't a clue...Marc Gasol won DPOY, he wasn't/isn't the best defender on his team...LeBron was playing some of the best defense I have ever seen that year...When Tyson won DPOY, DHow should have won and LeBron was better that year as well...Defensive stats are a subjective matter...Good luck listening to these so called experts...

You make no sense. What does DPOY have to do with anything?The statistics I provided ,or ESPN provided rather, are gathered together by ESPN expert statisticans, the DPOY award is chosen by a panel of 120 sportswriters and broadcasters..

Are defensive stats not a subjective matter???

The basic ones are, but when we are talking about the advanced statistics it may not be, especially for centers. Do you really mean to say that the statistics I provided about Robin Lopez are utter BS?

All BS..I think I showed someone where advanced stats was showing Love is a better defender than LeBron..

So yes to BS..

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball..

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function...Melo rebounds at a higher clip..

The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..

What have I said that has not been measured? You think the numbers I have mentioned can't be seen or measured?

Per Ian Begley

Lopez allowed opponents to shoot just 48 percent at the rim last season.
Lopez ranked ahead of the following elite rim defenders: Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan. Not bad.
In 2013-14, Lopez’s numbers as a rim protector were more impressive. He allowed opponents to shoot 46 percent at the rim, the NBA's second-best percentage behind Roy Hibbert.
For what it's worth, the Knicks as a team ranked 11th in the NBA in opponent field goal percentage at the rim last season. Lopez should boost those numbers in 2015-16.

You think scrubs can pull off what he does? Enough with the bull **** man.

If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball.

Or he is being efficient and trying to maximise as many high % shots as possible and, Oh yes! when you are on a team that has guys like Damian Lillard, Wesley Matthews, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Nicolas Batum, you are not neccessarily going to get many oppurtunities to get your own shot off.

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function

This dosen't make any sense to me. If you are one of the top contested rebounders in the league, then that tells you that he is boxing out really well or is working hard to get to those rebounds. Holfresh answer me this question. Would you rather have a guy who can get you 5-7 hard earned, contested rebounds OR would you rather have a guy who will get you 8-10 uncontested rebounds?

Bro, do yourself a favor, stop listening to these guys that talk rim protection...DHow was swatting close to 3 shots a game in the playoffs..Lopez wasn't/can't do anything close to that..That's rim protection...DHow wa pulling down like 14 boards per in the playoffs..U gonna really tell me why Lopez numbers are better because it was contested??

Since when does a guy blocking 1 shot a game become a rim protector?..Stop it!!

Holfresh says
just ignore the clear facts that expert statistican provide and listen to my ludicrous statistical analysis.

Did I say anything about Dwight Howard? Did I say that Robin was a better rebounder? No. I am saying is that you shold not be busting his chops so much about his rebounding.

Experts???...These guys haven't a clue...Marc Gasol won DPOY, he wasn't/isn't the best defender on his team...LeBron was playing some of the best defense I have ever seen that year...When Tyson won DPOY, DHow should have won and LeBron was better that year as well...Defensive stats are a subjective matter...Good luck listening to these so called experts...

You make no sense. What does DPOY have to do with anything?The statistics I provided ,or ESPN provided rather, are gathered together by ESPN expert statisticans, the DPOY award is chosen by a panel of 120 sportswriters and broadcasters..

Are defensive stats not a subjective matter???

The basic ones are, but when we are talking about the advanced statistics it may not be, especially for centers. Do you really mean to say that the statistics I provided about Robin Lopez are utter BS?

All BS..I think I showed someone where advanced stats was showing Love is a better defender than LeBron..

So yes to BS..

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TPercy wrote:

holfresh wrote:The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball..

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function...Melo rebounds at a higher clip..

The guys who are usually great at the things you can't see or measure are scrubs...Scubs own the subjective stat column..

What have I said that has not been measured? You think the numbers I have mentioned can't be seen or measured?

Per Ian Begley

Lopez allowed opponents to shoot just 48 percent at the rim last season.
Lopez ranked ahead of the following elite rim defenders: Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan. Not bad.
In 2013-14, Lopez’s numbers as a rim protector were more impressive. He allowed opponents to shoot 46 percent at the rim, the NBA's second-best percentage behind Roy Hibbert.
For what it's worth, the Knicks as a team ranked 11th in the NBA in opponent field goal percentage at the rim last season. Lopez should boost those numbers in 2015-16.

You think scrubs can pull off what he does? Enough with the bull **** man.

If your are a starter and only taking 3 shots per then there are probably 8 to 10 teammates your coach would rather see shoot the ball.

Or he is being efficient and trying to maximise as many high % shots as possible and, Oh yes! when you are on a team that has guys like Damian Lillard, Wesley Matthews, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Nicolas Batum, you are not neccessarily going to get many oppurtunities to get your own shot off.

And please stop with the contested rebound BS..What those numbers are telling me is he either doesn't box out well to get uncontested rebounds or he doesn't have the instinct to be in the right position to maximize rebounding or he is just plain lazy and doesn't hussle...I can't understand why a 7 footer can't grab 10 boards a game when it's your primary function

This dosen't make any sense to me. If you are one of the top contested rebounders in the league, then that tells you that he is boxing out really well or is working hard to get to those rebounds. Holfresh answer me this question. Would you rather have a guy who can get you 5-7 hard earned, contested rebounds OR would you rather have a guy who will get you 8-10 uncontested rebounds?

Bro, do yourself a favor, stop listening to these guys that talk rim protection...DHow was swatting close to 3 shots a game in the playoffs..Lopez wasn't/can't do anything close to that..That's rim protection...DHow wa pulling down like 14 boards per in the playoffs..U gonna really tell me why Lopez numbers are better because it was contested??

Since when does a guy blocking 1 shot a game become a rim protector?..Stop it!!

Holfresh says
just ignore the clear facts that expert statistican provide and listen to my ludicrous statistical analysis.

Did I say anything about Dwight Howard? Did I say that Robin was a better rebounder? No. I am saying is that you shold not be busting his chops so much about his rebounding.

Experts???...These guys haven't a clue...Marc Gasol won DPOY, he wasn't/isn't the best defender on his team...LeBron was playing some of the best defense I have ever seen that year...When Tyson won DPOY, DHow should have won and LeBron was better that year as well...Defensive stats are a subjective matter...Good luck listening to these so called experts...

You make no sense. What does DPOY have to do with anything?The statistics I provided ,or ESPN provided rather, are gathered together by ESPN expert statisticans, the DPOY award is chosen by a panel of 120 sportswriters and broadcasters..

Are defensive stats not a subjective matter???

The basic ones are, but when we are talking about the advanced statistics it may not be, especially for centers. Do you really mean to say that the statistics I provided about Robin Lopez are utter BS?

All BS..I think I showed someone where advanced stats was showing Love is a better defender than LeBron..

So yes to BS..

All Bs, because you think, but not possesing any knowledge of when you shown someone the mystery advanced stats that showed that Love is a better defender than Lebron. Please enlighten EVERYBODY with your findings that you 'think' you have.

TPercy wrote:If you can seriously, sincerely, and with a straight face say that all of those players are "soft" then your credibility has seriously shot.
All of those players are very hard working players who are willing to bang and do what is needed for the team..yet in your eyes they are soft. Hard to take you seriously unless you have a different meaning for soft..

http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2015/08/21/shaq-i-killed-off-all-of-my-enemies/

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Just savor this a bit, Lopez was the 5 best player in the starting lineup in Portland that got rolled in the first round of the playoffs..He is the second highest paid player on our team next year..

rolo is a very effective player and will be great here. but news flash, fred g.: lillard ain't all that-- sorry!-- and aldridge needs to tighten up his game a bunch. unless lillard improves a bunch he will be having "change of scenery."

portland's underachieving can be lain squarely at the feet of those two players.

Yeah right..They refused to resign/traded three starters because Aldridge left..They just backed up a Brinks truck for Lilliard..You can look at the playoff numbers to see who the real players are..Aldridge was playing with a torn ligament in his thumb..He said he couldn't feel around his thumb..

then, as when clyde addressed felton's hand injury... don't shoot!

He was their best player, even with a bad hand, he was their best option...

if he can't shoot then he needs to do other things... like pass the rock and defend, for instance-- but hey guess what... that's not his game, which is why he decided to go to san antonio.

You are blind dude..It's ok that u don't get it...

lol okay what is it i am blind to now?

Here are the differences in how you view things versus how I view things..In battle, soldiers fall from attrition in pursuit towards their goal...When the flag bearer falls, the platoon knows who will rise to the occasion, grab the flag and charge up the hill ahead of everyone...Everyone on the battle field knows who will grab that flag, it's not even a question...Some guys will follow and some guys won't...The guy who grabs the flag is your leader for simply doing that act...Your leader is made on the battle field not in the barracks, as many here want to suggest...Aldrige grabbed that flag and charged uphill and no one followed...Melo grabbed that flag against Indy and Shump followed as best he could...LeBron grabbed that flag and Mozgov followed...Curry grabbed the flag and the whole team followed...Get it????

Heres the difference in how you view things vs some of the rest of us......you are preparing for a battle with a flag bearing leader charging up the hill taking shots. We are preparing for an entire long term war where it is not just about one flag bearing hero but about the infantry and tanks and marines and homeland protection etc. There are different roles on a roster, and when you are preparing for war, you have to ensure you are prepared for the long haul on offense and defense. The Knicks are not there yet, but adding another flag bearer on offense while it might win some battles does not seem like the right way to build for war.

Isn't that the entire crux of my argument??..Adding pieces who are willing to share the burden and have shown courage thru action we have seen, not imagined??? Thats what teams like Boston did who added KG and Ray Allen and let Rondo develop in a winning atmosphere...The Heat with LeBron and Bosh along with young players like Charlmers and Cole..The Lakers adding Shaq who went to the Finals before going to LA then later adding Gasol...Portland didn't want to resign the pieces that failed in the last battle that you now qualify as infantry men, and who can blame them...We added soft players, guys who didn't want to run up that hill..Guys who were riding the pine in the playoffs and on lottery teams...They aren't hungry...But that's the foundation you think are tanks and marines...They are soft and are nice young men..I hear they come from good families according to Phil...That's the priority it seems..Aldridge and Melo would be a nice foundation with additional pieces that can be added next year to compete with the East...

I suspect you are kidding around with this post - but just in case not.......

Aldridge was not coming to NY, but somehow you keep harping on him as if he was a viable option. Just for argument's sake let's say NY was a destination for LMA. He is an offensive minded 4 who will join Melo an offensive minded 3/4 (who is becoming more of a 4 as the years go by) - and they both of similar age and bring similar things, will play similar minutes and operate basically in a similar space on the floor. How does this diversify the dynamic of the overall team?

Boston added KG (an all around great player and also defensive minded 4/5) and Allen (a sharpshooting 2) to a roster that had Pierce (a great 3) and later Rondo (a 1). So they were essentially adding pieces to make their entire roster formidable on offense and defense - not just at one position.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh conspired to play together in Miami prior to the "Decision" - so not sure how that even fits in. Even with that, Lebron was basically a Point Forward 3, Wade a 2 and Bosh a 4/5 adding in Chalmers/Cole who split time at the 1 if I recall. So this just makes my point for me that they were also adding diverse pieces to the roster to work together as a team - not just strengthening one position.

Shaq was added to a roster with Bryant - essentially pairing 2 Top All Time NBA players at the 2 and 5 with an All Time NBA Coach. Not sure who the Knicks were picking up this season that fits into those categories - perhaps you can enlighten me as to this analogy that you are trying to make.

There is a difference between Heart and Talent. You are calling players soft which indicates you think they have no heart. I believe you are mistaken - and that players such as Lopez etc, while not having All World Talent - certainly play with heart and effort. The most derogatory thing you can call a professional athlete is Soft. Given what it takes to become a professional athlete - it is kind of despicable for someone who hangs out posting on a blog all day to say.

The Knicks had no real shot at Aldridge - given that, what moves would you have made this offseason to bring in "Hardened" NBA All Star types who want to run up the hill as you call it?

I'm not suggesting that Aldrige was leaving Portland to come here..But we took ourselves out of the running making lubricious demands..We won't know if he wanted to come do we..And please stop the crazy talk that one of the best PF in the league doesn't fit on a 17 win team..Stop it...

Melo is not playing more PF going forward because of the wear and tear..You aren't risking injury to your only offensive weapon but then again, we are talking about Fisher..

We are projected as winning 25 games next year and somehow you see that as the road building a contender..Amazing..

You never really answer anything, only to keep saying the same things over and over again.

You admit that Aldridge was not coming to NY yet make the basis of your argument Aldridge vs. the players the Knicks actually brought in.

You call the players the Knicks brought in "soft" but offer no alternatives

You put down the Defensive statistics presented by ESPN (via TPercy) as nonsense or "subjective".....but the 25 Win Projection by ESPN is one basis of your argument like it is the rule of law.

You talk about Aldridge as some kind of Flag Bearing Hero/Savior for the rebuilding Knicks but don't .comment on the fact that he plays in the same space as Melo.