mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:was that galdakakis or what ever his name is? number 44

He was in for the last 1:30. He is 44. Did he get in before that? I only saw the fourth quarter.

I did not see him earlier.

He made one big bonehead play to end the game.

Not sure why they don't care to get a real look at him.

He came a long way and they have been scouting him for a couple of years. Seems like he should get some run. The Frenchmen isn't ready but he is a scrapper.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Uggh

please Porzingis--set up in the low post.

First off his 3 point shot is a LINE DRIVE its not a great-looking shot. He doesnt have the mobility to be a stretch 4 and for the cats here who think hes a 3--well you're way off.

Kristaps Porzingis is a 5-4 who will need to develop into a pure 5. His focus taking 4 3's UGGGHHHHHGGHH!! this game was BRUTAL--I think it effected his whole game.

Hes got to stay in the low post--get used to it get stronger learn the footwork and the skills and STAY FA FAR FAR away from the 3 pt line

I expected a game like this. If the Knicks think this guy is taking 6 3's a game they might as well have traded the pick. Low post to mid range or we can develp Bargs #2. By the way Porgs shot right now is NO where and I mean NO where near Myles Turner's jump shot or overall game

Also Karl Towns made mistakes by setting up deep early in the SL. Last game if anyone watched--he used his inside game EFFECTIVELY.

This kid needs to watch film on how Pau Gasol and Kevin Mchale play basketball. He thinks hes a 30 foot jumpshooter. That my friend 1-7 4 3's IS soft EURO

Thansis Ledo Kirk are all crp.

Dang it you say some dumb stuff sometimes.

What that I dont want my C shooting 30 foot line drive 3's? His 3 point shot even open in-game is not a thing of beauty. I dont want to experiment with KP. I simply want him taking high% shots from the mid range to post. get used to finding open men rebound block shots. Simplify it. The 3 point shot should NOT be part of his arsenal right now. 7-3 guys should be dunking laying balls up taking nice mid range shots thats it.

Mentioned it somewhere else...where is that little pick and pop midrange shot Jayson Smith was getting from Calderon at one point in the season?

you keep mentioning that but that should not be the feature. I know that you and other thought Jason was great at it but it was terribly inefficient.

again, I am fine with it sometimes but those shots are being fazed out of most modern offenses and for good reason.

Depends on the efficiency, I would think. If he makes that shot 55-60% of the time is it a better shot to take than D. Green's 33% from the 3?

What Green was doing with Curry is essentially the same thing from beyond the arc...No?

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Uggh

please Porzingis--set up in the low post.

First off his 3 point shot is a LINE DRIVE its not a great-looking shot. He doesnt have the mobility to be a stretch 4 and for the cats here who think hes a 3--well you're way off.

Kristaps Porzingis is a 5-4 who will need to develop into a pure 5. His focus taking 4 3's UGGGHHHHHGGHH!! this game was BRUTAL--I think it effected his whole game.

Hes got to stay in the low post--get used to it get stronger learn the footwork and the skills and STAY FA FAR FAR away from the 3 pt line

I expected a game like this. If the Knicks think this guy is taking 6 3's a game they might as well have traded the pick. Low post to mid range or we can develp Bargs #2. By the way Porgs shot right now is NO where and I mean NO where near Myles Turner's jump shot or overall game

Also Karl Towns made mistakes by setting up deep early in the SL. Last game if anyone watched--he used his inside game EFFECTIVELY.

This kid needs to watch film on how Pau Gasol and Kevin Mchale play basketball. He thinks hes a 30 foot jumpshooter. That my friend 1-7 4 3's IS soft EURO

Thansis Ledo Kirk are all crp.

Dang it you say some dumb stuff sometimes.

What that I dont want my C shooting 30 foot line drive 3's? His 3 point shot even open in-game is not a thing of beauty. I dont want to experiment with KP. I simply want him taking high% shots from the mid range to post. get used to finding open men rebound block shots. Simplify it. The 3 point shot should NOT be part of his arsenal right now. 7-3 guys should be dunking laying balls up taking nice mid range shots thats it.

that is just silly.

our young forward should take any shot that he can hit at an efficient rate.

so glad you have zero to do with running this team.

What is silly?
That he needs work on his 3 point jump-shooting form in game? Its a line drive shot and its not a thing of beauty. He shoots his mid range the correct way. Thats the way he needs to play. Mid range to post. And arguing with you is not only silly its a waste of my time. Anyone who wants to make their 7-3 guy small--who wants KP to set up 30 feet from the basket--doesnt get it. Anyone who thinks this guy is Kevin Durant your insane. He CAN be a 20++ 5-4 or 4-5 NOT stretch but pure post to mid range 4-5. Im glad to see him not take a 3 in the 2nd half.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Uggh

please Porzingis--set up in the low post.

First off his 3 point shot is a LINE DRIVE its not a great-looking shot. He doesnt have the mobility to be a stretch 4 and for the cats here who think hes a 3--well you're way off.

Kristaps Porzingis is a 5-4 who will need to develop into a pure 5. His focus taking 4 3's UGGGHHHHHGGHH!! this game was BRUTAL--I think it effected his whole game.

Hes got to stay in the low post--get used to it get stronger learn the footwork and the skills and STAY FA FAR FAR away from the 3 pt line

I expected a game like this. If the Knicks think this guy is taking 6 3's a game they might as well have traded the pick. Low post to mid range or we can develp Bargs #2. By the way Porgs shot right now is NO where and I mean NO where near Myles Turner's jump shot or overall game

Also Karl Towns made mistakes by setting up deep early in the SL. Last game if anyone watched--he used his inside game EFFECTIVELY.

This kid needs to watch film on how Pau Gasol and Kevin Mchale play basketball. He thinks hes a 30 foot jumpshooter. That my friend 1-7 4 3's IS soft EURO

Thansis Ledo Kirk are all crp.

Dang it you say some dumb stuff sometimes.

What that I dont want my C shooting 30 foot line drive 3's? His 3 point shot even open in-game is not a thing of beauty. I dont want to experiment with KP. I simply want him taking high% shots from the mid range to post. get used to finding open men rebound block shots. Simplify it. The 3 point shot should NOT be part of his arsenal right now. 7-3 guys should be dunking laying balls up taking nice mid range shots thats it.

that is just silly.

our young forward should take any shot that he can hit at an efficient rate.

so glad you have zero to do with running this team.

What is silly?
That he needs work on his 3 point jump-shooting form in game? Its a line drive shot and its not a thing of beauty. He shoots his mid range the correct way. Thats the way he needs to play. Mid range to post. And arguing with you is not only silly its a waste of my time. Anyone who wants to make their 7-3 guy small--who wants KP to set up 30 feet from the basket--doesnt get it. Anyone who thinks this guy is Kevin Durant your insane. He CAN be a 20++ 5-4 or 4-5 NOT stretch but pure post to mid range 4-5. Im glad to see him not take a 3 in the 2nd half.

you are judging his 3 point arc from the couple of 3's that you saw in SL? WONDERFUL!

you are stuck in a time warp. every big today who can shoot 3's shoots 3's. Does not mean he shoots from 30 feet, I thought the 3 point line was close than 30 feet. It does not mean that he should shoot 30 threes a game, he should shoot 3's that are in the flow and of course, it depends on who is guarding him.

today's NBA does not tell players that you are too tall to do X and you are too short to do X. If you can do X and do X well then you should be doing X.

VCoug wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Uggh

please Porzingis--set up in the low post.

First off his 3 point shot is a LINE DRIVE its not a great-looking shot. He doesnt have the mobility to be a stretch 4 and for the cats here who think hes a 3--well you're way off.

Kristaps Porzingis is a 5-4 who will need to develop into a pure 5. His focus taking 4 3's UGGGHHHHHGGHH!! this game was BRUTAL--I think it effected his whole game.

Hes got to stay in the low post--get used to it get stronger learn the footwork and the skills and STAY FA FAR FAR away from the 3 pt line

I expected a game like this. If the Knicks think this guy is taking 6 3's a game they might as well have traded the pick. Low post to mid range or we can develp Bargs #2. By the way Porgs shot right now is NO where and I mean NO where near Myles Turner's jump shot or overall game

Also Karl Towns made mistakes by setting up deep early in the SL. Last game if anyone watched--he used his inside game EFFECTIVELY.

This kid needs to watch film on how Pau Gasol and Kevin Mchale play basketball. He thinks hes a 30 foot jumpshooter. That my friend 1-7 4 3's IS soft EURO

Thansis Ledo Kirk are all crp.

Dang it you say some dumb stuff sometimes.

What that I dont want my C shooting 30 foot line drive 3's? His 3 point shot even open in-game is not a thing of beauty. I dont want to experiment with KP. I simply want him taking high% shots from the mid range to post. get used to finding open men rebound block shots. Simplify it. The 3 point shot should NOT be part of his arsenal right now. 7-3 guys should be dunking laying balls up taking nice mid range shots thats it.

Mentioned it somewhere else...where is that little pick and pop midrange shot Jayson Smith was getting from Calderon at one point in the season?

you keep mentioning that but that should not be the feature. I know that you and other thought Jason was great at it but it was terribly inefficient.

again, I am fine with it sometimes but those shots are being fazed out of most modern offenses and for good reason.

Really?

Depends on the efficiency, I would think. If he makes that shot 55-60% of the time is it a better shot to take than D. Green's 33% from the 3?

What Green was doing with Curry is essentially the same thing from beyond the arc...No?

The thing is that nobody hits those pick and pops at 55%-60%. The best team in the league last year at 10-16 feet was GS; they shot 44% from there and the league average was 40%. Atlanta was the best at 16 feet to the 3-point line; they shot 44% from there and the league average was 39%. Even 3-10 feet from the basket SA was the best in the league at only 46% and the league average was 38%.

As team. Individually I think Porzingis will have the ability to be a 55-60% player. I dont mind an occasional 3 in rhythm where he might be following the play--but 7-3 guys--the benefit you get with them is post play. Good high % shots which helps spreads the floor for everyone else.

wh4t wrote:i agree with Briggs

More mid range shots and post up moves, less 3 pointers. I notice before this game that Krispy hesitated a lot at the 3 point line

I disagree....he's too light in the ass right now to bang all day against stronger guys in the post. As a rookie, he's basically a tall shooting guard with post up potential, and blind side block potential. As he gets stronger, he will develop into a strong post up player, who can absorb those bangs down low and still have the energy for his outside shot. Right now, he can't be relied on to do both bang down low and shoot outside. Otherwise he will have more days like today in his rookie year. His advantage right now is shooting outside, where there is less banging. Don't worry, he will get stronger and become a mid range post up player, but bringing a big outside the paint not only gives him an advantage, but it gives Melo room to operate 1 on 1, without worrying about a center blocking his shot.

blkexec wrote:

wh4t wrote:i agree with Briggs

More mid range shots and post up moves, less 3 pointers. I notice before this game that Krispy hesitated a lot at the 3 point line

I disagree....he's too light in the ass right now to bang all day against stronger guys in the post. As a rookie, he's basically a tall shooting guard with post up potential, and blind side block potential. As he gets stronger, he will develop into a strong post up player, who can absorb those bangs down low and still have the energy for his outside shot. Right now, he can't be relied on to do both bang down low and shoot outside. Otherwise he will have more days like today in his rookie year. His advantage right now is shooting outside, where there is less banging. Don't worry, he will get stronger and become a mid range post up player, but bringing a big outside the paint not only gives him an advantage, but it gives Melo room to operate 1 on 1, without worrying about a center blocking his shot.

Im sorry I dont believe in the defeatist pssy attitude. Get stronger over the next 5 months and learn the post. Think back when you were 20--you were probably near your peak strength. 5 months is a LONG time a pro trainer can have him at 250 and wiry strong in that time. I want to see some jack in 5 months and I want to see post play incorporated. Thats it.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Uggh

please Porzingis--set up in the low post.

First off his 3 point shot is a LINE DRIVE its not a great-looking shot. He doesnt have the mobility to be a stretch 4 and for the cats here who think hes a 3--well you're way off.

Kristaps Porzingis is a 5-4 who will need to develop into a pure 5. His focus taking 4 3's UGGGHHHHHGGHH!! this game was BRUTAL--I think it effected his whole game.

Hes got to stay in the low post--get used to it get stronger learn the footwork and the skills and STAY FA FAR FAR away from the 3 pt line

I expected a game like this. If the Knicks think this guy is taking 6 3's a game they might as well have traded the pick. Low post to mid range or we can develp Bargs #2. By the way Porgs shot right now is NO where and I mean NO where near Myles Turner's jump shot or overall game

Also Karl Towns made mistakes by setting up deep early in the SL. Last game if anyone watched--he used his inside game EFFECTIVELY.

This kid needs to watch film on how Pau Gasol and Kevin Mchale play basketball. He thinks hes a 30 foot jumpshooter. That my friend 1-7 4 3's IS soft EURO

Thansis Ledo Kirk are all crp.

Dang it you say some dumb stuff sometimes.

What that I dont want my C shooting 30 foot line drive 3's? His 3 point shot even open in-game is not a thing of beauty. I dont want to experiment with KP. I simply want him taking high% shots from the mid range to post. get used to finding open men rebound block shots. Simplify it. The 3 point shot should NOT be part of his arsenal right now. 7-3 guys should be dunking laying balls up taking nice mid range shots thats it.

Mentioned it somewhere else...where is that little pick and pop midrange shot Jayson Smith was getting from Calderon at one point in the season?

you keep mentioning that but that should not be the feature. I know that you and other thought Jason was great at it but it was terribly inefficient.

again, I am fine with it sometimes but those shots are being fazed out of most modern offenses and for good reason.

Really?

Depends on the efficiency, I would think. If he makes that shot 55-60% of the time is it a better shot to take than D. Green's 33% from the 3?

What Green was doing with Curry is essentially the same thing from beyond the arc...No?

The thing is that nobody hits those pick and pops at 55%-60%. The best team in the league last year at 10-16 feet was GS; they shot 44% from there and the league average was 40%. Atlanta was the best at 16 feet to the 3-point line; they shot 44% from there and the league average was 39%. Even 3-10 feet from the basket SA was the best in the league at only 46% and the league average was 38%.

As team. Individually I think Porzingis will have the ability to be a 55-60% player. I dont mind an occasional 3 in rhythm where he might be following the play--but 7-3 guys--the benefit you get with them is post play. Good high % shots which helps spreads the floor for everyone else.

According to NBA.com/stats, of players who took at least 2 shots/game between 5-9 feet from the basket only two shot over 50%; Joe Johnson (54.5%0 and Donatas Motiejunas (50%).

Of players that took at least 2 shots/game between 9-14 feet only three shot over 50%: Kevin Durant (56%), Chris Paul (52%), and Chris Bosh (51%).

Players that took at least 2 shots/game between 15-19 feet four shot exactly 50%: Khris Middleton, Al Horford, Chris Paul, and Kevin Garnett.

Between 20-24 feet only Kyle Korver (51%) shot over 50%.

Between 8-16 feet, three players: Kevin Durant (53%), Chris Paul (52%), and Markieff Morris (50%)

Between 16-24 feet, two players: JJ Redick and David West, both 50%

In the paint outside of the restricted area, seven players: Chris Paul (53%), Valanciunas (52%), Motiejunas, Tony Parker, Joe Johnson, and Derrick Rose (51%), and Chris Bosh (50%)

Midrange, three players: Beno Udrih and JJ Redick (both exactly 51.4%), Anderson Varejao (50%).