fishmike wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:the cap is going up by more than 20mm in 2016... i don't think any of these teams are fretting about money...

and even if they do.. i know cle and okc have protections on future outgoing picks so they might not even be able to trade it...

dont count on that. the owners will lockout the players long before they let an increase of that amount occur.

and this time they would lose...

they might and then the owners will exit the current cba (29 months or so till that could happen) and see if the new nbapa head is waaay better than hunter was.

gunsnewing wrote:Has Tyson ever hit a 20 footer? Tyson's 10ft shots would draw a sarcastic oh & ah from the Garden crowd. Can Tyson dribble and dish like Towns. Not at all. One of Tyson's weakness was passing. Terrible passer. Dribbling? Forget it with Tyson!

*Sorry..but I have to get off topic for a bit*

This is way T.Chandler was traded and why I say his stock would have NOT gotten any better if we held on to him. Everything you just noted that he can not do is what needed from a center playing in the triangle offense.

FistOfOakley wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:The tax is going up by 20m but those teams will have salaries above that. They also will have players looking for bigger deals that year or the next year. Its about being repeat tax offenders and suffering extremely for every dollar you are over.

there are just too many forces going against a team giving away a young cheap asset... you have the foreign market, you have the dleague which okc used to stash their pick... you have an exploding free agent market plus the tax line going up significantly... how often has this been done in the last couple of drafts?

and they would have to give it away because we don't have anything to give... i mean.. it COULD happen but is it likely?

Young cheap talent is good but when they are not playing and costing you double the money it becomes a detriment. Teams have to take that into account. Also, I am not saying that the knicks could make a deal because they lack assets but those are 4 teams that could be willing to give up this years 1st.

Swishfm3 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Has Tyson ever hit a 20 footer? Tyson's 10ft shots would draw a sarcastic oh & ah from the Garden crowd. Can Tyson dribble and dish like Towns. Not at all. One of Tyson's weakness was passing. Terrible passer. Dribbling? Forget it with Tyson!

*Sorry..but I have to get off topic for a bit*

This is way T.Chandler was traded and why I say his stock would have NOT gotten any better if we held on to him. Everything you just noted that he can not do is what needed from a center playing in the triangle offense.

Yup but he still had more value than what we got back. We would've got back a lot more value had we traded him at the deadline last year but we were still trying to make the playoffs as a meaningless 8th seed. Probably would've got more value for him at this year's deadline as well since Mozgov got 2 firsts. I think Phil rushed the Dallas trsde because they wanted to make sure they resigned Melo.

And we always trade guys when their value is at their lowest. We have a tendency to devalue every player. It sucks

gunsnewing wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Has Tyson ever hit a 20 footer? Tyson's 10ft shots would draw a sarcastic oh & ah from the Garden crowd. Can Tyson dribble and dish like Towns. Not at all. One of Tyson's weakness was passing. Terrible passer. Dribbling? Forget it with Tyson!

*Sorry..but I have to get off topic for a bit*

This is way T.Chandler was traded and why I say his stock would have NOT gotten any better if we held on to him. Everything you just noted that he can not do is what needed from a center playing in the triangle offense.

Yup but he still had more value than what we got back. We would've got back a lot more value had we traded him at the deadline last year but we were still trying to make the playoffs as a meaningless 8th seed. Probably would've got more value for him at this year's deadline as well since Mozgov got 2 firsts. I think Phil rushed the Dallas trsde because they wanted to make sure they resigned Melo.

And we always trade guys when their value is at their lowest. We have a tendency to devalue every player. It sucks

Not much positive coming out of this season, but some of the beat reporters and opinion writers seem to take great glee piling when writing their articles hammering the team.

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Has Tyson ever hit a 20 footer? Tyson's 10ft shots would draw a sarcastic oh & ah from the Garden crowd. Can Tyson dribble and dish like Towns. Not at all. One of Tyson's weakness was passing. Terrible passer. Dribbling? Forget it with Tyson!

*Sorry..but I have to get off topic for a bit*

This is way T.Chandler was traded and why I say his stock would have NOT gotten any better if we held on to him. Everything you just noted that he can not do is what needed from a center playing in the triangle offense.

Yup but he still had more value than what we got back. We would've got back a lot more value had we traded him at the deadline last year but we were still trying to make the playoffs as a meaningless 8th seed. Probably would've got more value for him at this year's deadline as well since Mozgov got 2 firsts. I think Phil rushed the Dallas trsde because they wanted to make sure they resigned Melo.

And we always trade guys when their value is at their lowest. We have a tendency to devalue every player. It sucks

Should any of the devaluing get attributed to the NY area press? The NY Post, especially, is as provocative as some of the posters on UK.

Not much positive coming out of this season, but some of the beat reporters and opinion writers seem to take great glee piling when writing their articles hammering the team.

Absolutely the media is gets some of the blame