Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

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fishmike wrote:

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fishmike wrote:

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fishmike wrote:

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Nalod wrote:The chronic Melo Bash is about as pathetic as the homer melo Apologist.

There are so many variables to each individual player and circumstance its sad to think they are not members of teams and the influence those variables play.

Love is going to play with Kyrie and Lebron. Melo came to play with Billups and Landry.

I hated the Melo trade and use to bang on the guy for his fitness but the crap that guys post about him has me constantly defending him. I think many of the 'Melo Apologists' are responding to the ridiculousness of the stuff posted about Melo. Also, I watch almost every game and the guy is really good and plays really hard.

exactly... this is what people dont get. You get stupid post after stupid post and you call it out and your a homer. Knicks dont have a winning season for a decade, get Melo and go to the playoffs 3 straight years and get better ever year and you have Guns etc posting stuff like nothing has been accomplished.

Was the expectation to get Melo and just go the finals every year? No other pieces needed right?

It only counts if the team is doing things they agree with. They have this love affair with building a team is through the draft. Since we gave up draft picks (no matter how damaged and worthless) to get a superstar player we are doing it in a way they do not agree with. So at this point it has nothing to do with wanting the Knicks to win. It has to do with winning their way.

You are missing the point if you think it's simply about building through the draft. We emptied the cupboard of every asset to get Carmelo here. Surrounding him with enough talent became impossible because we did not have young players and picks to trade. It looks like Phil plans on holding into hose assets. Something the Knicks have refused to do in heir history.

As far as Melo we wi just let things play out on the court. It better work because he is virtually untradeable at that price and the fact that he put a no trade Claus in his contract. It better work. They got 5yrs

again..... just totally totally false. I didnt like the trade at the time, mostly because Felton was playing career ball under MDA and Billups was a terrible fit as a walk it up half court guy

The Nuggets traded Melo to the New York Knicks tonight, a league source said. Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Anthony will go to New York, along with Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.

Lets review the championship pieces we are dying without since the Melo trade:
Wil Chandler: nice role player, never healthy
Gallo: nice role player, never healthy, bad contract
Mozgov: love him.. what can I say? But he's a role player fringe starter at best
2 second rounders (got those back with Felton/Chandler deal)
1 first rounder

So please... pretty please... just stop it. Give me a freakin break. Knicks lost ALL the key players to a 29 win team. End of story. Time to get over it and stop pretending we traded Durant and Lebron first rounders. It didnt happen. If pretending it does makes you feel warm and fuzzy try smoking weed. Its safer and will yield better results.

"29 win team"

skippy why are you lying? the knicks were 28-26 at the time of the swindle and were a lock for 7th or 8th seed for the playoffs in 2010-2011. had he kept his mouth shut and waited for free agency the knicks would have been and still would be in a far better position.

lol... nice try. fail.

I'm confused by the "29 win team" talk as well....did you exopect the Knicks to only win 1 more game the rest of the way?

But it matter none. Carmelo HIMSELF said he knew the team would have to rebuild when they traded for him....not retool, but rebuild.

The player himself is admitting the team was gutted.

That Knicks team had Amare playing at an MVP level. With injured Amare, we were looking at a 30 win or less team moving forward.

That would depend on how the cap space used up by Melo and Billups and the assets traded to get them were used. The 29 win comment is either a) based on that current season, which would mean we went 1-27 the rest of the way or b) referring to future seasons, which means he is assuming we get nothing in return for the players and picks traded and nothing out of the cap space we would have had. Point A is absurd and point B is about as compelling as the 1-27 claim

Yup Absurd is the word.

This is why I will ALWAYS argue against the Melo trade. But keep trying y'all It amuses me.

Bonn1997 wrote:So it's based on a team of David Lee, Gallo, Chandler, Al Harrington, Chris Duhon Jared Jeffries, Toney Douglas, and Larry Hughes (the 8 guys with the most min)?! That has no relevance to the Melo trade.

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:So it's based on a team of David Lee, Gallo, Chandler, Al Harrington, Chris Duhon Jared Jeffries, Toney Douglas, and Larry Hughes (the 8 guys with the most min)?! That has no relevance to the Melo trade.

So players only would come here if we had cap space and Melo is here

If not then our cap space would have proved valueless

So we would have never drafted a single talent or executed any other trades

Outside of trading for Melo and drafting Shumpert

I'm sure the rock steady crew posters of Knicks 2010 and beyond

Saw us hiring Phil Jackson back then too

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:So it's based on a team of David Lee, Gallo, Chandler, Al Harrington, Chris Duhon Jared Jeffries, Toney Douglas, and Larry Hughes (the 8 guys with the most min)?! That has no relevance to the Melo trade.

So players only would come here if we had cap space and Melo is here

If not then our cap space would have proved valueless

So we would have never drafted a single talent or executed any other trades

Outside of trading for Melo and drafting Shumpert

I'm sure the rock steady crew posters of Knicks 2010 and beyond

Saw us hiring Phil Jackson back then too