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StarksEwing1
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8/7/2014 8:19 AM

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nixluva wrote:LIVE BODY! In the big picture it's just a move to add a little something to the roster we didn't have. We didn't need another SG and Tyler is a nice prospect but when would he play on this team? Acy is just a role player but what he provides can be useful. Nothing sexy but he got rid of Ellington which was what he wanted to do.
NO YOU DIDN'T.. lol YOU WENT from Jeremy tyler high upside, to "when is he going to get playing time".. I find this to be a trend around here when guys are shipped out.... so now Quincy Acy=good, and tyler= blah!!!

If Phil makes ten total moves this off-season, I guarantee you nixluva will love all ten of them!
lol.. no kidding...
And you two will hate all ten moves or just stay quiet if you secretly like the move but for some bizarre reason don't want to acknowledge it.
gotta love it... dont hear anything from tfk for a week, then he comes in, posts like 5 times in a row with one douche comment after another trashing anyone who think positively and vanishes... great guy.
Acy is like a very poor man's JYD. Lost of energy. I suspect we traded our guys who wont play for their guys who wont play.
I could have cared less about Tyler. Some here were high on him, I was not. Struck me as robotic and predictable. When his 2-3 moves were working he looked great. When they werent he had nothing. He was also the biggest strongest dude in that Chinese league he played in and his numbers were utterly average.
With Bargs and Amare made of glass I could definatly see Acy having a meaningful stretch for the Knicks. I could never picture that from Tyler.

Fish this is probably your first post that i actually agree with lol. I like energy guys and Acy is definetly an energy guy. I didnt see the potential some saw in Tyler. All in all this trade didnt help or hurt us which is ok because Phil just wnated to cut the guard position since we have a overflow

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8/7/2014 8:21 AM LAST EDITED: 8/7/2014 8:22 AM

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GustavBahler wrote:Just be glad that Jackson is at work making moves, not just pining away for 2015. Don't believe he is doing this just to look busy, there is some kind of a plan at work here. Would rather have Jackson making these decisions than Mills(and Dolan), that's for sure.

The plan is simple. Get guys who are in shape and give a damn

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8/7/2014 8:23 AM

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GustavBahler wrote:Just be glad that Jackson is at work making moves, not just pining away for 2015. Don't believe he is doing this just to look busy, there is some kind of a plan at work here. Would rather have Jackson making these decisions than Mills(and Dolan), that's for sure.
The plan is simple. Get guys who are in shape and give a damn

That's a big part of it.

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8/7/2014 8:24 AM LAST EDITED: 8/7/2014 8:24 AM

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GustavBahler wrote:Just be glad that Jackson is at work making moves, not just pining away for 2015. Don't believe he is doing this just to look busy, there is some kind of a plan at work here. Would rather have Jackson making these decisions than Mills(and Dolan), that's for sure.
The plan is simple. Get guys who are in shape and give a damn

Exactly. Phil has done a really good job BUT being realistic we still have to wait for 2015 for significant improvement simply because we dont ave he cap space yet. Phil even said this is a process that will take time, at least he is honest which i respect

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8/7/2014 8:28 AM

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StarksEwing1 wrote:Eh this trade was basically to get rid of ellington. It doesnt help or hurt us IMO. I know people like Tyler but i dont see the potential. he can soto fr a big guy but he doenst play like a big man on the boards r on defense.

Tyler has potential, but he's not getting any playing time over the bigs we have now....And instead of wanting him to play with Acy passion, Phil just traded for Acy, while removing Ellingtons contract, who was also buried on the bench, behind a glut of SG's.

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8/7/2014 8:30 AM

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StarksEwing1 wrote:Eh this trade was basically to get rid of ellington. It doesnt help or hurt us IMO. I know people like Tyler but i dont see the potential. he can soto fr a big guy but he doenst play like a big man on the boards r on defense.
Tyler has potential, but he's not getting any playing time over the bigs we have now....And instead of wanting him to play with Acy passion, Phil just traded for Acy, while removing Ellingtons contract, who was also buried on the bench, behind a glut of SG's.

Yeah it was basically just to limit the glut of guards we have and get a little energy off the bench.

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8/7/2014 8:31 AM

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StarksEwing1 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:LIVE BODY! In the big picture it's just a move to add a little something to the roster we didn't have. We didn't need another SG and Tyler is a nice prospect but when would he play on this team? Acy is just a role player but what he provides can be useful. Nothing sexy but he got rid of Ellington which was what he wanted to do.
NO YOU DIDN'T.. lol YOU WENT from Jeremy tyler high upside, to "when is he going to get playing time".. I find this to be a trend around here when guys are shipped out.... so now Quincy Acy=good, and tyler= blah!!!

If Phil makes ten total moves this off-season, I guarantee you nixluva will love all ten of them!
lol.. no kidding...
And you two will hate all ten moves or just stay quiet if you secretly like the move but for some bizarre reason don't want to acknowledge it.
gotta love it... dont hear anything from tfk for a week, then he comes in, posts like 5 times in a row with one douche comment after another trashing anyone who think positively and vanishes... great guy.
Acy is like a very poor man's JYD. Lost of energy. I suspect we traded our guys who wont play for their guys who wont play.
I could have cared less about Tyler. Some here were high on him, I was not. Struck me as robotic and predictable. When his 2-3 moves were working he looked great. When they werent he had nothing. He was also the biggest strongest dude in that Chinese league he played in and his numbers were utterly average.
With Bargs and Amare made of glass I could definatly see Acy having a meaningful stretch for the Knicks. I could never picture that from Tyler.
Fish this is probably your first post that i actually agree with lol. I like energy guys and Acy is definetly an energy guy. I didnt see the potential some saw in Tyler. All in all this trade didnt help or hurt us which is ok because Phil just wnated to cut the guard position since we have a overflow

that must mean your wrong alot. Good balancing move, and Acy is a guy who will ensure practices are competetive. You want the bottom of the roster to be guys who can actually help in some way. Didnt see that from Tyler, and Ellington was lost in the #s game.

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8/7/2014 8:33 AM

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fishmike wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:LIVE BODY! In the big picture it's just a move to add a little something to the roster we didn't have. We didn't need another SG and Tyler is a nice prospect but when would he play on this team? Acy is just a role player but what he provides can be useful. Nothing sexy but he got rid of Ellington which was what he wanted to do.
NO YOU DIDN'T.. lol YOU WENT from Jeremy tyler high upside, to "when is he going to get playing time".. I find this to be a trend around here when guys are shipped out.... so now Quincy Acy=good, and tyler= blah!!!

If Phil makes ten total moves this off-season, I guarantee you nixluva will love all ten of them!
lol.. no kidding...
And you two will hate all ten moves or just stay quiet if you secretly like the move but for some bizarre reason don't want to acknowledge it.
gotta love it... dont hear anything from tfk for a week, then he comes in, posts like 5 times in a row with one douche comment after another trashing anyone who think positively and vanishes... great guy.
Acy is like a very poor man's JYD. Lost of energy. I suspect we traded our guys who wont play for their guys who wont play.
I could have cared less about Tyler. Some here were high on him, I was not. Struck me as robotic and predictable. When his 2-3 moves were working he looked great. When they werent he had nothing. He was also the biggest strongest dude in that Chinese league he played in and his numbers were utterly average.
With Bargs and Amare made of glass I could definatly see Acy having a meaningful stretch for the Knicks. I could never picture that from Tyler.
Fish this is probably your first post that i actually agree with lol. I like energy guys and Acy is definetly an energy guy. I didnt see the potential some saw in Tyler. All in all this trade didnt help or hurt us which is ok because Phil just wnated to cut the guard position since we have a overflow
that must mean your wrong alot. Good balancing move, and Acy is a guy who will ensure practices are competetive. You want the bottom of the roster to be guys who can actually help in some way. Didnt see that from Tyler, and Ellington was lost in the #s game.

Sarcasm Fish

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8/7/2014 8:35 AM LAST EDITED: 8/7/2014 9:09 AM

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I don't get why Sacramento traded for ellingtons contract. Are they that infatuated with Tyler. They added salary in the deal!

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8/7/2014 8:40 AM

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OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?

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8/7/2014 8:53 AM

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so we got calderon, dalembert, larkin, early, acey, outlaw

for

tyler, chandler, felton, ellington, a second round pick

that's highway robbery.

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8/7/2014 9:05 AM

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gunsnewing wrote:I don't get why Sacramento traded for ellingtons contract. Are they that infatuated with Tyler. They added scary in the deal!

Sacramento gained 300,000 in cap space and the second round pick is clean now. Not a huge gain but I think they would have had to waive Acy.

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8/7/2014 9:29 AM

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anrst wrote:so we got calderon, dalembert, larkin, early, acey, outlaw
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tyler, chandler, felton, ellington, a second round pick
that's highway robbery.

the roster is very nicely rebooted. Much of these guys will be gone next year, but its a more skilled, younger, and hungrier group. I like that we have a lot of guys in walk years who will be going all out for either their next contract or to stay on this team.

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8/7/2014 9:45 AM

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SupremeCommander wrote:OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?

LOL. amazing what happens when you have competent management, right?

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anrst wrote:so we got calderon, dalembert, larkin, early, acey, outlaw
for
tyler, chandler, felton, ellington, a second round pick
that's highway robbery.

As many parts moved in these deals////

The needle never did

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anrst wrote:so we got calderon, dalembert, larkin, early, acey, outlaw
for
tyler, chandler, felton, ellington, a second round pick
that's highway robbery.
As many parts moved in these deals////
The needle never did

lol

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Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/497150294019813378
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/497147406077546496
Looks like we still want to clear a roster spot.

This post of twitters I think is key to understanding what happened and what may happen. Phil didn't really want Outlaw (originally going to Utah) and did want Acy; and did want to trade Ellington. Phil, for some reason, wants to trade Prigs.

Watch for a trade of Prigs and Outlaw. Low-key trade, but Phil will get the players he wants.

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8/7/2014 10:59 AM

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these end of bench deals mean absolutely nothing.

acy, tyler, ellington may as well be named joe blow. they will have virtually zero impact on any team they play for.

no need to really break down the skills or anything like that. end of bench fodder. nothing to see here.

in related news, phil is now eyeing jamario moon, jason kopono and hedo turkoglu.

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8/7/2014 11:01 AM LAST EDITED: 8/7/2014 11:08 AM

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Markji wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/497150294019813378
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/497147406077546496
Looks like we still want to clear a roster spot.

This post of twitters I think is key to understanding what happened and what may happen. Phil didn't really want Outlaw (originally going to Utah) and did want Acy; and did want to trade Ellington. Phil, for some reason, wants to trade Prigs.
Watch for a trade of Prigs and Outlaw. Low-key trade, but Phil will get the players he wants.

If they move Prigs, you gotta figure it'll be for another ball-handler. Hard to envision they do it just to get Thanasis on the roster (a yr in the DL or in Europe playing big mins. might be good for Thanasis' development) plus only going with an older Calderon and Larkin at the point feels a bit thin...We'd need 1 more PG for depth, no? Even if we just bought out Prigs at this point and brought in a Seth Curry or Kalin Lucas as a cheap understudy PG--I'd be fine with that. I'd consider that an upgrade.

I wonder if Utah still has interest -- would you guys do Prigioni for Ian Clark straight up? 6'3" PG outta Belmont that can really shoot the ball. Talking about a guy that hit his 3s over a 40% clip all 4 yrs in college, over 45% his senior year. Good PG size, solid ball-handler and he's actually got some nice speed as well. Very crafty/shifty with the ball. Not just a shooter -- looks like he's got a nice off-the-dribble game, he can push the ball and he gives good effort defensively (2013 Ohio Valley Conference Defensive Player of the Year/shared co-POY honors in 2013 with Isaiah Canaan). Not a bad passer too from what I can see. Pretty good feel for the PG position. I wonder if we could steal this kid for Prigioni:

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^ Pablo and Outlaw for Novak and a 2nd rounder? You need a lot of shooters in the triangle.

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