NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:When there is finally a "pg" in the finals that is important let me know until then Westbrook is one of the better options. He may be wild on offense but at least he competes on D.

HELLO!!! TONY PARKER! Mr.Back-to-Back Finals finalist.

Westbrook is a zero sum player. He stuffs a stat sheet but he's every bit as likely to consistently get lost on a switch, force dumb shots that shifts momentum and to disrupt team chemistry. What makes him so different from a Steve Francis?

Hello, Tony is not a true point and gets yelled at constantly by pop since his arrival. He pounds the ball way to much at times which leads him to playing off the ball. On the other side of the ball he has put in effort but usually they try to hide him.

To many people seek perfection in players.

I never suggested that Tony Parker doesn't have his flaws- all players do. The difference with Tony and a guy like Russell is that Tony does not allow those flaws to consume his game. He will consistently make the right decisions and never stray from a team concept. You think Tony Parker would jack up 5 consecutive bad shots, one of which included shooting a half-court shot with 15 seconds left on the clock and down 2 in overtime? Westbrook is simply a dumb player, that people expect to get smarter with age. Unfortunately, there is no cure for stupid and I think the guy will continue these antics for the rest of his career. Add to the fact that he has one of the most obnoxious egos in the game and I think it's unlikely that he'll ever understand why he needs to change his game. They need to trade him before he hurts himself again and I think a package featuring Kyrie Irving would be perfect for them.

I actualy know Parker used to do stupid things like Westbrook and still does at times. Take a look at some of Parker Playoff numbers.

I also, have thought about a Kyrie/Westbrook trade but if you are OKC your'e gaining a slightly better gunner with worst defense. However, it might be the ri8ght time to snag an Irving while he is still young and can be coached up.

yellowboy90 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:When there is finally a "pg" in the finals that is important let me know until then Westbrook is one of the better options. He may be wild on offense but at least he competes on D.

HELLO!!! TONY PARKER! Mr.Back-to-Back Finals finalist.

Westbrook is a zero sum player. He stuffs a stat sheet but he's every bit as likely to consistently get lost on a switch, force dumb shots that shifts momentum and to disrupt team chemistry. What makes him so different from a Steve Francis?

Hello, Tony is not a true point and gets yelled at constantly by pop since his arrival. He pounds the ball way to much at times which leads him to playing off the ball. On the other side of the ball he has put in effort but usually they try to hide him.

To many people seek perfection in players.

I never suggested that Tony Parker doesn't have his flaws- all players do. The difference with Tony and a guy like Russell is that Tony does not allow those flaws to consume his game. He will consistently make the right decisions and never stray from a team concept. You think Tony Parker would jack up 5 consecutive bad shots, one of which included shooting a half-court shot with 15 seconds left on the clock and down 2 in overtime? Westbrook is simply a dumb player, that people expect to get smarter with age. Unfortunately, there is no cure for stupid and I think the guy will continue these antics for the rest of his career. Add to the fact that he has one of the most obnoxious egos in the game and I think it's unlikely that he'll ever understand why he needs to change his game. They need to trade him before he hurts himself again and I think a package featuring Kyrie Irving would be perfect for them.

I actualy know Parker used to do stupid things like Westbrook and still does at times. Take a look at some of Parker Playoff numbers.

I also, have thought about a Kyrie/Westbrook trade but if you are OKC your'e gaining a slightly better gunner with worst defense. However, it might be the ri8ght time to snag an Irving while he is still young and can be coached up.

I don't recall but will defer to you on this one because I avoided watching the Spurs, like the plague back in the day. I do remember that they were rumored to have had Parker on the block: (1) once for Jason Kidd before he re-signed with the Nets and (2) when George Hill first emerged. Knowing all of that, there must be something to what you are saying.

In spite of all of that, I still have my concerns with Westbrook. He has a poor feel for the game and few skills beyond his otherworldly athleticism. Guys like that tend to have very short shelf-lives because of the stresses they put on their bodies (see Derrick Rose, Antonio McDyess, etc.). He's one tweaked knee away from being very ordinary. I think the prudent thing to do would be to move him ASAP and like you, I think Kyrie would be a great replacement. Yes, his defense is shoddy but there is nothing physically wrong with him to think that he can't/won't find his stride on this end of the floor.

If I was OKC I would trade for Aflalo, someone with a track record of shooting well and playing D.