dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

oh and this "keep him fresh for the entire game" thing-- utter foolishness and at the very least proof that he is overpaid because he is not a genuine two-way player.

Bron doesn't guard Melo, so what's does that make him??.Paul George guards Melo and gets torched, so what the point??..Last player to do 27pts 9reb 3asst in a season is Shaq...

There's a fool here for sure...

NYKBocker wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

oh and this "keep him fresh for the entire game" thing-- utter foolishness and at the very least proof that he is overpaid because he is not a genuine two-way player.

Bron doesn't guard Melo, so what's does that make him??.Paul George guards Melo and gets torched, so what the point??..Last player to do 27pts 9reb 3asst in a season is Shaq...

yup... more stupid I never watch basketball but pretend I know what Im talking about the TFK/DK contingent. DK... are you old enough to remember the Rockets/Knicks finals series in the 90s? Who did Ewing guard in that series? The Knicks best defensive player... did he guard Hakeem? Seeing as how Pat Riley coached that team Im curious as per your comment:
"keep him fresh for the entire game" thing-- utter foolishness

There's a fool here for sure...

Ewing, Oak and Mason took turns guarding the Dream and vice versa. Hakeem did not always guard Patrick, sometimes Thorpe guarded Patrick.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

What Melo is worth the Knicks and MSG we cannot afford to pay him because of the salary cap...If this was baseball he would get 30 mil per going forward next year...The Knicks are worth 1.4 bil and MSG stock has tripled since he has been here as the featured product...I hope he stays and take 20 mil per...But the Knicks organization has to have a plan of action to get the right pieces around him to win a Chip... No more of this foolishness to cover up Donnie's and MDA gross errors...We signed Amare for MDA's pick and roll system..Signed Chandler to cover up MDA defensive weaknesses..We needed a legit PG...Donnie/MDA screwed us royally but you have nothing but praise for them..So I certainly hope Melo takes 20 mil but that only means he will be in this organization a very long time for Dolan to pay him what he is really worth...

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

What Melo is worth the Knicks and MSG we cannot afford to pay him because of the salary cap...If this was baseball he would get 30 mil per going forward next year...The Knicks are worth 1.4 bil and MSG stock has tripled since he has been here as the featured product...I hope he stays and take 20 mil per...But the Knicks organization has to have a plan of action to get the right pieces around him to win a Chip... No more of this foolishness to cover up Donnie's and MDA gross errors...We signed Amare for MDA's pick and roll system..Signed Chandler to cover up MDA defensive weaknesses..We needed a legit PG...Donnie/MDA screwed us royally but you have nothing but praise for them..So I certainly hope Melo takes 20 mil but that only means he will be in this organization a very long time for Dolan to pay him what he is really worth...

20 million a year okay. everything else you have said is background static. you believe he is worth 20 million a year to the knicks and 30 million were there no cap.

gotcha.

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

How about a trillion dollars? WTF do I care about Dolan's money?
I'm a Knick fan, not a fuhucking shareholder.

I really like watching/listening to/thinking about/writing about the Knicks playing basketball.
I really like it when they win, I hate it when they lose.
I like when Melo scores 62.
I hated when they dumped Ewing for garbage. [Remember the balloon payments? Did you stay up at night peeing your pants over them?]
I liked it when Chris McNealy got 7 steals in one game.
I laughed when Eddie Lee Wilkins used to pump his fist after a layup during garbage time.
I hated it when BK left.
I liked it when Spree hit those 9 threes in a row. [I would've given the guy 140 mill to play and feed those kids]

I never truly gave a fuhuck what they were paid.

To me, this is NBA basketball, not an MBA course.

misterearl wrote:Bonn1997 - let it go.

Living in the past will not get us to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Carmelo is an outstanding teammate who leads without fear and accepts responsibility in the worlds largest media market. Not all players are built to handle the attention.

Damain Lillard or bust.

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

of course you say that. There is zero, zilch basis or reality behind your 12mm a year. Its stupid for anyone who follows the NBA to even address that statement. Your saying Melo isnt a max player? By every definition he is. Who in the NBA takes less? Lebron? Bosh? Is Bosh making $12mm? No. He makes $20mm. Mr. I took less to help the heat. Thats TWENTY million a year for guy whos half the player Melo is. Not market value. Not reality based = stupid post.

he is not a franchise player therefore not a max player. you cannot build around him because he has too many holes. bosh is overpaid but then if you look how miami is assembled they have a very sixer/iverson era roster outside the big three in terms of defenders-- but they sacrifice rebounding. but it is hard to not notice the cheap contracts after the big 3.

1 Chris Bosh $19,067,500
2 LeBron James $19,067,500
3 Dwyane Wade $18,673,000
4 Udonis Haslem $4,340,000
5 Mario Chalmers $4,000,000
6 Joel Anthony $3,800,000
7 Shane Battier $3,270,000
8 Ray Allen $3,229,050
9 Rashard Lewis $1,399,507
10 Chris Andersen $1,399,507
11 Norris Cole $1,129,200
12 Greg Oden $1,027,424
13 Michael Beasley $1,027,424
14 Jarvis Varnado $788,872

given the knicks' situation it is insanity to pay carmelo anthony a penny more than 13 million. and make no mistake, carmelo himself was instrumental in creating the situation he finds himself in. so it is incumbent upon him to lay a major role in improving the situation.

people like holfresh like to blame walsh and d'antoni and stoudemire for this situation. perhaps melo feels the same way. but asking to be paid 20 million is cutting off ones nose to spite ones face.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

misterearl wrote:Bootleg Alert

dk7th. - carmelo is frightened of doing hard work on the defensive end. it's unimaginable that he will not balk having to work under thibs.

Interesting

So you think the NBA leader in minutes played, responsibility accepted and most pressure for winning to be a recalcitrant issue for a former Knicks assistant coach?

Why?

he has a penchant of conserving his energy on the uphill side of the court so he can slalom on the downhill side. if that were not the case he would demand the privilege of guarding the opposing teams best wing player. but most of the time he doesn't, won't or probably just can't. he is overpowered by legit pfs and too slow to stay in front of sfs and fight over the picks. these are facts.

thibs will not kowtow to anthony. anthony knows that. chicago front office knows that and you better believe paxson has thibs back over there in spite of shedding deng. no way in hell melo goes to chicago. bad fit, especially with rose. in fact melo at this point is a bad fit no matter where he goes. the league has figured this out.

that is a fact. good news: even if he demands a trade from here there will be no takers, which means the knick front office can dictate terms to him. 12-13 million a year will be fair.

I guarantee one thing, Melo plays a lot harder than the guy you are all broken up about being traded..

yeah i don't see it that way. one thing i liked about gallinari is that he asked his coaches that he be allowed to guard the hardest assignments. admirable and he was effective.

melo? nope. narcissism means you want to hide your deficiencies so people can't figure out how close to a zero-sum player you really are. that's why melo shirks the tough assignments-- he doesn't like being exposed. he is not worth more than 12-13 million a year.

for the record it is not about who was traded for melo at this point, it's about what kind of maneuverability the knicks have as they continue along this ludicrous win-now with melo track. hint: they have none.

you happy about that?

The guy u are fawning over pulls 5 boards a game at 6'10" and u call Melo lazy...As for guarding the best player, it is silly for Melo to guard the best player, you want to keep him fresh for the entire game ..Gallo is of no consequence ..Bron doesn't guard Melo, have u noticed that??..Is he a bum too??

were you actually expecting these donkees to hold their heros to the same standards they hold Melo to??? You aint seen nothing yet! When Gallo gets healthy in 2018 he's going tear it up and average 6 rebs a game and then you will see!!!

+1
We're on Maneuvers!

Gallo will lead the league in MANEUVERABILITY!!!
Ever notice how the sombers start arguing in circles when things start going slightly well again? Now the record isn't what we traded away for Melo (after four years of posting what a great franchise Denver is and will become and is maneuvered into being) it's that our stupidly run franchise has no maneuverability! Imagine, a franchise having win-now ludicrousness in NYC!!! And with one of the most prolific scorers the franchise has ever had!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

18-27 doesn't look like win-now to me. what does it look like to you?

It looks better than a Rooster on permanent IR.
It looks like 1/2 game out of the playoffs. Remember 1999?
It looks better with each win.

I know it can never look like anything but a constantly half-empty powder blue and yellow urine cup to you.

enuf chitchat. lets get to the bottom line: how much should melo be paid?

i say 12-13 million. what do you say?

What Melo is worth the Knicks and MSG we cannot afford to pay him because of the salary cap...If this was baseball he would get 30 mil per going forward next year...The Knicks are worth 1.4 bil and MSG stock has tripled since he has been here as the featured product...I hope he stays and take 20 mil per...But the Knicks organization has to have a plan of action to get the right pieces around him to win a Chip... No more of this foolishness to cover up Donnie's and MDA gross errors...We signed Amare for MDA's pick and roll system..Signed Chandler to cover up MDA defensive weaknesses..We needed a legit PG...Donnie/MDA screwed us royally but you have nothing but praise for them..So I certainly hope Melo takes 20 mil but that only means he will be in this organization a very long time for Dolan to pay him what he is really worth...

You have the #s? I think the stock market as a whole has at least doubled in that time frame

it hasn't tripled but it essentially doubled. When MSG launched its IPO right before "The Decision". I bought MSG for ~$30 a share on the chance LeBron signed with the Knicks. MSG is trading at $56.65 right now